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    Quote Originally Posted by RedMisted View Post
    My opinion on country club road courses? Use the idea for the pro circuits. Keep it the hell away from the club facilities that cater to the grassroots guys who don't have $5K-$10K to spend on an annual membership.
    Don't forget the initial membership fee! There's a country club track being built (maybe?) in Kansas City by the airport and the pricing is as follows:

    Founding Member: $85K pre-production price
    $100K post-production price
    $0 for dues per year

    Elite Member: $35K pre-production price
    $40K post-production price
    $6000/yr. annual dues

    For that kind of money I could buy lifetime memberships to MAM for me and half of the Midwest Division to run test and tune days.:eek: That is obscene pricing especially in this market and they would need groups like SCCA and NASA to help pay for some of the costs to run the place.
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    At the rate we were going with monies coming into the track and entries being way down, we're probably 35% under normal revenue for the year. At that rate, the track would likely have closed outright within two years because the money just isn't there for improvements. I'm looking at the future with mixed feelings. On the bright side, the track will be completely renovated and new buildings erected. It has a huge potential be be as good or better than Mid-Ohio when it was redone. The facilities are going to be first class and the track will be repaved and widened. On the other side, smaller events may be a part of the past because they will be cost prohibitive to the smaller groups. The flip side to that may be that the smaller groups will get more entries due to it being a first class facility. SCCA races will increase in car counts due to the track surface being better for formula cars. And the plan is at this point to have the "more interesting" races such as MARRS, the WOR Games and the Longest Day with more to follow.

    At this point, as with the past, we are still working hard to do the best as we can with what we have to work with. Sure, the track may be rough in some places, (I finally found my braking point for turn 12 with the new Mazda), but I grew up at the track and will always call it home as well as the racers and workers being family to me.
    Thank you for my say and I hope to see you on the track for the final year of Nelson as it is now.
    Bryan KF8G
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    Bryan, Looks like the schedule for balance of year to remain the same?? Hope things work out for the best Scott,Carrie, and employees have always made us feel welcome. We Plan to be back for the Pumpkin. Even though we spent time on a tire pile. Now have new nose splitter etc. TW
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    Quote Originally Posted by tdw6974 View Post
    Bryan, Looks like the schedule for balance of year to remain the same?? Hope things work out for the best Scott,Carrie, and employees have always made us feel welcome. We Plan to be back for the Pumpkin. Even though we spent time on a tire pile. Now have new nose splitter etc. TW
    Unless plans change, the Harvest double and the Pumpkin may not happen. After early September, the track will be torn up and paving is to start. So it looks right now like the WOR Games will be the last SCCA race this year. Of course, that all depends on the studies they did last week at the track. But for now, they want the pavement down by November.
    Also, Scott, Kerrie and I will remain on board to run things. So the faces shouldn't change.
    Remember this officailly unofficial!!!
    Bryan KF8G
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryan KF8G View Post
    Unless plans change, the Harvest double and the Pumpkin may not happen. After early September, the track will be torn up and paving is to start. So it looks right now like the WOR Games will be the last SCCA race this year. Of course, that all depends on the studies they did last week at the track. But for now, they want the pavement down by November.
    Also, Scott, Kerrie and I will remain on board to run things. So the faces shouldn't change.
    Remember this officailly unofficial!!!
    Bryan, Thanks for putting us in the know. I'm also looking to the future with a combination of trepidation and excitement. We'll just have to see how things pan out. Glad to know that they are keeping Scott and Kerrie at the track. The Lanes are good people.
    And, another "you're welcome" for racing you cleanly at the Westward Ho event!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedMisted View Post
    Bryan, Thanks for putting us in the know. I'm also looking to the future with a combination of trepidation and excitement. We'll just have to see how things pan out. Glad to know that they are keeping Scott and Kerrie at the track. The Lanes are good people.
    And, another "you're welcome" for racing you cleanly at the Westward Ho event!
    I thought that was you!!! Whats your next race. I'm doing the Neohio double and thinking of WOR Games.
    Bryan KF8G
    Nelson Ledges Road Course
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryan KF8G View Post
    I thought that was you!!! Whats your next race. I'm doing the Neohio double and thinking of WOR Games.
    I'm aiming for the Neohio event, for sure.
    Chris
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