Summit 12 Hours

[type r rocket]

So Summit is less than a month away so I thought I would start a thread on it to keep us folks who are a 15 hour drive away in the loop.
Any tid bits of info or fun facts would help,at this point we are staying in a rv so I don't think we need a room yet.But.
This Lumaboard thing,any info on that yet,Summit requires them,I am told there are two sizes,any idea which one they would like to see.And I guess King Rat sells them.If I am complety wrong could someone enlighten us please.

Dave Volante

[IPRESS]

FIFTEEN HOURS thats nothing, there you poormans Dean Martin! We will be towing for.......days to get there. But props for bringing up the questions. Dave email me
macspikes at aol dot com

[dave parker]

Dave
Elumaboards are required per the supps. They can be purchased from www.ogracing.com or www.kingratmotorsports.com. There are two different sizes of Elumaboard kits, the supps for the 12 hour do not specify a size. However the large Elumaboard kit is the only one that would allow a competitor to use GCR compliant numbers (height and stroke). I am sure that the "rules nerds" will get a huge debate flowing on this issue.

In the interest of full disclosure, I am an employee of King Rat Motorsports and any statements DO NOT reflect the views and opinions of the management.

cheers
Dave Parker
WDCR HP#97
2007 MARRS HP Champion

[MMiskoe]

Interesting.

When the Sup's came out I emailed DC Region & asked what they were after, where to get them and WHY we needed them (I bitched a bit about it). The response I got was that they were not going to be required provided the car had white on black or black on white lettering.

All the stuff I'd seen posted was that they were moderately expensive and rather fragile so if they took a hit or a rock they were shot.

So are they required or not?

[jjjanos]

Interesting.

When the Sup's came out I emailed DC Region & asked what they were after, where to get them and WHY we needed them (I bitched a bit about it).

Because the flaggers cannot read uniluminated numbers. Reflective tape is NFG and so is black on white/white on black. Given the amount of carnage that Some Mopes inflict on each other and innocent bystanders, not being able to see car numbers at night means its a free-for-all on car-to-car contact.

The response I got was that they were not going to be required provided the car had white on black or black on white lettering.

The rules making committee debated this and determined that illuminated numbers were mandatory and that the boards were probably the best option at that time. If someone is telling you that black/white numbers that are not lite are sufficient, then someone is wrong and ignoring the instructions of the rules making committee.

So are they required or not?

Contact the Chief Steward of the event and ask. No one else has the authority to tell you that these will not be required.

There will be push back from the folks who will be on the stations all day if there is not some means to ID your at night.

[mlytle]

Because the flaggers cannot read uniluminated numbers. Reflective tape is NFG and so is black on white/white on black. Given the amount of carnage that Some Mopes inflict on each other and innocent bystanders, not being able to see car numbers at night means its a free-for-all on car-to-car contact.



The rules making committee debated this and determined that illuminated numbers were mandatory and that the boards were probably the best option at that time. If someone is telling you that black/white numbers that are not lite are sufficient, then someone is wrong and ignoring the instructions of the rules making committee.



Contact the Chief Steward of the event and ask. No one else has the authority to tell you that these will not be required.

There will be push back from the folks who will be on the stations all day if there is not some means to ID your at night.

um, what he said.

as part of the rule making body that decided on this, i can assure you the boards are required.

[Chris Humphrey]

um, what he said.

as part of the rule making body that decided on this, i can assure you the boards are required.

Good news!

They are not required anymore according to the email I received from the club office today.

I need that extra cash for my fuel bill.

[Knestis]

Ultimately, the written supps define the rule. However, the real NERD moment here is that those rules mandate use of "Illumi-Boards" - of which there appears to be no such thing. We have something (mandated for the VIR 13 last year) called an "ElumaBoard."



K

[type r rocket]

Well,I just ordered a set of the larger ones,this endurance racing thing is getting expensive.Question I have is can you buy just one side panel and not a whole kit?I really don't want to have to get a whole set again after one of you takes my door outAnyone had to yet?


Dave

[Knestis]

We're rethinking the entire graphics package of the car, and are relocating the lit boards to the inside of the rear quarter windows. If they get crunched, they'll be the least of our concerns.

K

[dave parker]

[quote=MMiskoe;266705]Interesting.


"All the stuff I'd seen posted was that they were moderately expensive and rather fragile so if they took a hit or a rock they were shot."

Mr. Miskoe
I can assure you that the Elumaboard is not "rather fragile". I will provide examples.

The Elumaboard was a required item for the 2007 VIR 13 hour endurance race. ALL seventy cars that took the checkered flag had functioning Elumaboards on both sides of the car. Several of these cars had signifigant crash damage with impacts directly to the Elumaboard.

While annoucing at the SCCA National race at Summit Point this weekend I met a gentleman by the name of John Weisberg. Mr. Weisberg related to me his adventure at the 2007 25 hours of Thunderhill where the Elumaboard on one side of his racecar was cut in half after contact with another competitor. The part of the Elumaboard that was still receiving power continued to function properly. I sold him an individual Elumaboard so that he can continue to have two.

I have confidence that the Elumaboard is a well made, durable product. I have seen that proven in practice for several years now. As a racing equipement retailer for many years, and a racer for even more I would not stand behind or associate my name with a substandard product.

If you would like more information about the Elumaboard please feel free to contact me directly at 540.955.9696 or you can click this link to our website and read about the producthttp://www.kingratmotorsports.com/pm-16-1-elumaboard.aspx

cheers
Dave Parker
Manager
King Rat Motorsports

[IPRESS]

Keep going guys I love a wee wee contest!

[MMiskoe]

Well this is quite the shit storm. Sorry about that.

All I was trying to do was avoid having to put on vinyl graphics right before going out on track like we have for the past several years. It has always been a pain and seemed like an easy thing to fix.

As far as the comments that the boards are fragile, when I did a search for them, there were some posts on the SM page from people that had trouble with them. One in particular that said they took a rock to one before the race even started and it severed the power connection, leaving that board useless. There were no commments indicating from people indicating that theirs had been hit & continued to work.

I am not a flagger, I claim to know nothing about how hard it is to spot cars in the dark. It just seemed to me that suddenly there was no way to night racing w/o these boards, which couldn't be true as we all know that cars have been night racing for years. Only in the very recent past have these numbers started getting used.

Free for all on contact? Interesting comment as for the past 6 years that I've been driving in that event contact is minimal and happens during the day light. Perhaps I've been lucky.

So if the lit up boards are a requirement, so be it, all I ask is that a decision get made quickly so those of us who thought we had that item covered have time to make it happen.

Matt