NHMS - Memorial Day Weekend

[Jeremy Billiel]

No playful banter yet? I just looked at the weather and so far so good. I know I am excited to get out for the first time in almost a year. Now I have to shave off 2 seconds to get my steak dinner. (Get ready to pay up Joe)

VTEC has been fixed in the GSR and my prediction for Greg when he runs DP will be a 1:15 under his ITA track record.

I am looking to finish top 10 in ITS and to break into the 1:16's.

[stevel]

No playful banter yet? I just looked at the weather and so far so good. I know I am excited to get out for the first time in almost a year. Now I have to shave off 2 seconds to get my steak dinner. (Get ready to pay up Joe)

VTEC has been fixed in the GSR and my prediction for Greg when he runs DP will be a 1:15 under his ITA track record.

I am looking to finish top 10 in ITS and to break into the 1:16's.

Don't take me too seriously here as I have a big smile on my face saying this, but I think you're on crack for both those predictions.

Look back over ITS times from last year. Sub 1:15 (during the race) would pretty much be a lock for 1st in ITS, and probably pretty damn close to the track record. And just being in the 1:16 range for most races gets you a top 3 in ITS.

I just don't see either combo of car/driver doing that. While this hasn't been a particulary warm month of May so far, even so I don't think the weather conditions are going to be be advantageous for power, which is what you would need to have a chance.

Like I said, take it lightly as I like you guys and have fun joking around with you guys.

But seriously, those are LOFTY goals. If I were you, I think staying in the 1:17s consistently during the race would be an accomplishment all its own, seriously.

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[Jeremy Billiel]

Don't take me too seriously here as I have a big smile on my face saying this, but I think you're on crack for both those predictions.

Look back over ITS times from last year. Sub 1:15 (during the race) would pretty much be a lock for 1st in ITS, and probably pretty damn close to the track record. And just being in the 1:16 range for most races gets you a top 3 in ITS.

I just don't see either combo of car/driver doing that. While this hasn't been a particulary warm month of May so far, even so I don't think the weather conditions are going to be be advantageous for power, which is what you would need to have

Like I said, take it lightly as I like you guys and have fun joking around with you guys.

But seriously, those are LOFTY goals. If I were you, I think staying in the 1:17s consistently during the race would be an accomplishment all its own, seriously.

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We have a taker of the bait! Thanks Steve!

Agreed the goals are VERY optomistic, but hey I need to shoot for something!

Why the ITS times are slower than ITA times is another discussion altogether, but I will take consistent 1:17's all day.

[Tkczecheredflag]

We have a taker of the bait! Thanks Steve!

Agreed the goals are VERY optomistic, but hey I need to shoot for something!

Why the ITS times are slower than ITA times is another discussion altogether, but I will take consistent 1:17's all day.

Jeremy - Could it be that the faster ITA times and track records are being posted by previously classified ITS cars??? Just a thought. I'm not arguing the re-class but it makes you wonder just a little - No??

[lateapex911]

Jeremy - Could it be that the faster ITA times and track records are being posted by previously classified ITS cars??? Just a thought. I'm not arguing the re-class but it makes you wonder just a little - No??

Timmy, not trying be a dork and split hairs here, but...... the faster ITA times have been posted by cars like your (exact) Teg, Jeremy's Nissan, Andy's Miata, and Tom's CRX...and to my recollection, none have seen ITS classification in their history. Or am I forgetting something (other than one car, the egg)?

[Tkczecheredflag]

Timmy, not trying be a dork and split hairs here, but...... the faster ITA times have been posted by cars like your (exact) Teg, Jeremy's Nissan, Andy's Miata, and Tom's CRX...and to my recollection, none have seen ITS classification in their history. Or am I forgetting something (other than one car, the egg)?

Jake - My referrence leaned nore towards tGA's Egg and Crazy Joe's Nissan The newest re-class kids on the block ITA - both were ITS cars as I recall.

Again - not arguing the re-class, just scratching my "dreads mon".

[stevel]

We have a taker of the bait! Thanks Steve!

Agreed the goals are VERY optomistic, but hey I need to shoot for something!

Why the ITS times are slower than ITA times is another discussion altogether, but I will take consistent 1:17's all day.

If Greg CAN run lower 1:15s consistently, then why are YOU running the car in ITS? With those times he'd be in the mix of the top 3. Again, I don't think that's gonna happen, but if thats what you think then it doesn't make sense for you to run the car in ITS.

As far as ITS and ITA times at that track, I just think it's the nature of the track and the cars. Again, a whole 'nother discussion altogether. But I think the track, wheel widths, brakes, and extra weight all play a factor.

That said, ITS cars HAVE run 1:13.8, just not during a race. :eek:

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[Jeremy Billiel]

If Greg CAN run lower 1:15s consistently, then why are YOU running the car in ITS? With those times he'd be in the mix of the top 3. Again, I don't think that's gonna happen, but if thats what you think then it doesn't make sense for you to run the car in ITS.

As far as ITS and ITA times at that track, I just think it's the nature of the track and the cars. Again, a whole 'nother discussion altogether. But I think the track, wheel widths, brakes, and extra weight all play a factor.

That said, ITS cars HAVE run 1:13.8, just not during a race. :eek:

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Oh its clear that Greg is a much better driver than I. However he is at LRP on Saturday so it makes no sense for me to race Satruday and then have Greg start from the back of the pack Sunday morning. He is going up to do some further testing. I am happy to see that the GSR is finally getting dialed in.

Interesting observation Tim!

[Greg Amy]

I just don't see either combo of car/driver doing that...

And, thusly, the gauntlet was thrown to the ground...the crowd waited in anticipation for one of the warriors to pick it up...

[dominojd]

No playful banter yet? shave off 2 seconds to get my steak dinner. (Get ready to pay up Joe)

I am looking to finish top 10 in ITS and to break into the 1:16's.

I think I made a safe bet, you'll be lucky to get into the 1:17's.

[Jeremy Billiel]

We will see... Only time will tell.

I just bought brand new sticker tires too! Money is no object!

[Andy Bettencourt]

Greg getting into the 15's should be no problem. You into the 16's...now that is another issue!

ITA isn't faster than ITS at NHMS. Last year was a perfect storm of run groupings and weather. ITS track record is a 1:14.2 and an offical qual time of 1:13.8. Ain't no ITA car ever gonna hit that.

Good weather should have the chicane/chicane record fall for ITS. Qual times have been in the 1:18's for ITS...

[Jeremy Billiel]

Greg getting into the 15's should be no problem. You into the 16's...now that is another issue!

ITA isn't faster than ITS at NHMS. Last year was a perfect storm of run groupings and weather. ITS track record is a 1:14.2 and an offical qual time of 1:13.8. Ain't no ITA car ever gonna hit that.

Good weather should have the chicane/chicane record fall for ITS. Qual times have been in the 1:18's for ITS...

What are you saying Andy? I suck? If so you are correct!

I am shooting for it. We will see what happens. All I have to do is grow some balls and go through turns 1 and 2 better.

[Andy Bettencourt]

Not saying that at all - just haven't seen you get much seat time as all. A good goal to have - hope you nail it!

[dominojd]

All I have to do is grow some balls and go through turns 1 and 2 better.

Ask Stepanie if you can borrow them for the weekend, ya know once she cut them off they will never grow back.

[gran racing]

So you saying Jeremy had balls at one time??

[Beran]

Anyone know if we can park on the grass this weekend?
Beran

[lateapex911]

Anyone know if we can park on the grass this weekend?
Beran

I'm planning on it, although I worry about the "durometer" or "Stimp" meter reading...

Like, it might be a bit soft after the rains...