ITR Car Counts

[NORRIS]

I yanked out the restrictor, took out some weight and stuck on 17" wheels and ran ITR in Sopac region last year, but I was the only one, so I moved back to ITS for this year. Maybe next year I may run up in Northern California some. Or maybe if you guys want to come down I'll change back and we can have a North/South shootout. I'd send a picture, but cant figure how te reduce tha size of the file.

[JoshS]

I yanked out the restrictor, took out some weight and stuck on 17" wheels and ran ITR in Sopac region last year, but I was the only one, so I moved back to ITS for this year. Maybe next year I may run up in Northern California some. Or maybe if you guys want to come down I'll change back and we can have a North/South shootout. I'd send a picture, but cant figure how te reduce tha size of the file.

John, send me your photo (josh at sirota.org) and I'll size and post it for you.

Best way to resize, if you are on Windows XP, is to download and install the "image resizer XP powertoy" from Microsoft. After you install it, you'll be able to right-click on a photo and resize it right there ... no need to open any apps or anything. It's trivial.

http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...ertoySetup.exe

[Trussell]

another quick way is to just...right click on the pic....go to OPEN WITH....and select PAINT .....once open click on the top line IMAGE....select Streach/SHEW...change from 100 to 20 or 25 on the first 2 option and ok....save again....should be done

[dj10]

what happens if you don't have paint?

[JoshS]

what happens if you don't have paint?

Guys, seriously, install the powertoy. You won't believe how trivial it is.

[lateapex911]

IRFANVIEW is another super easy photo viewing and manipulation tool. It works on non XP machines and is free at http://www.irfanview.com/

[Trussell]

Paint should be pre installed...and yes I was joking about the shots of the green #43....here it is

[dj10]

Damn you Travis!!! LOL good one you had me going. :~)

[Z3_GoCar]

I yanked out the restrictor, took out some weight and stuck on 17" wheels and ran ITR in Sopac region last year, but I was the only one, so I moved back to ITS for this year. Maybe next year I may run up in Northern California some. Or maybe if you guys want to come down I'll change back and we can have a North/South shootout. I'd send a picture, but cant figure how te reduce tha size of the file.

I'm planning on joining you John, that's why I got the steel hood instead of repairing the carbon hood. As for the pictures, I just uploaded them into a gallery here and they're automatically resized to 600x600.

James

ps. The Z3 is in fact an e-36 car, so we're just adding to the numbers of the evil-umpire

[mlytle]

in addition to the above identified marrs mudbuggies, there are two more in the region.
sam asinugo and john counts - both ex-its 325's

there is also a z3 vert down in the carolinas - ricky thompson

[tnord]

944 S2, 325is, integra type R, and i think an S2000 being built in MiDiv.

<----waiting for the new MX5.

[Andy Bettencourt]

<----waiting for the new MX5.

So was I Trav...but knowing what I know about what they weigh, I think it's an ITS car at about 2675. In ITR it would have to weigh about 2335 with the super-low power compared to others in class...and using our Koni Challenge car as a barometer, it could never make that weight with driver.

[tnord]

So was I Trav...but knowing what I know about what they weigh, I think it's an ITS car at about 2675. In ITR it would have to weigh about 2335 with the super-low power compared to others in class...and using our Koni Challenge car as a barometer, it could never make that weight with driver.

why not? i thought the "body in white" weighed the same as the 99-05 cars?

it would just be plain odd to have a miata overweight and at the top of the power curve in any class. i would like to see it in ITR to help the class take off, but if it's going to end up as a 'tweener, that might not happen. that would really be a shame.

of course.....that just opens the door for the next generation of SM. :eek:

[Andy Bettencourt]

I really don't think it's a bad car in ITS at that weight.

[Ron Earp]

So was I Trav...but knowing what I know about what they weigh, I think it's an ITS car at about 2675. In ITR it would have to weigh about 2335 with the super-low power compared to others in class...and using our Koni Challenge car as a barometer, it could never make that weight with driver.

Andy, aren't these cars 2L 4 bangers variable valve timing rated at like 166 hp? Seems to me the cars will have a lot of potential for ITS. The BMW motor was only 0.5L smaller, and naturally a lot of things are different between to two, but you wouldn't want to create a "325-like" situation in ITS again. I've clearly not investigated the particulars with the motors and so on, just looking at the surface.

Ron

[Andy Bettencourt]

Andy, aren't these cars 2L 4 bangers variable valve timing rated at like 166 hp? Seems to me the cars will have a lot of potential for ITS. The BMW motor was only 0.5L smaller, and naturally a lot of things are different between to two, but you wouldn't want to create a "325-like" situation in ITS again. I've clearly not investigated the particulars with the motors and so on, just looking at the surface.

Ron

Ron,

The problem with the E36 was that it never went through the process. It's a totally different situation. If it were to run through right now for ITS, it would weigh no less than 3220lbs.

To me, the more standard output per liter, the LESS potential the car has in IT trim (see S2000) but that is neither here nor there. Using the 166hp and 25%, it could be a good choice if it can make the power. Grand Am used stock weights and hp numbers for the MX-5 in ST and ended up having to spec in open cams for it to compete...and it's still not there yet so I would assume 'normal' gains in IT trim.

Looking at all the cars classed using the process, I can't think of one off the top of my head that is an overdog but YMMV. There will be great drivers in great cars, but we have to seperate that...