VW = ITA Competitive ? Yes or No ??

[shwah]

James - you can get 170+hp worth of fuel out of CIS-E with stock brains....

The head and cams are the limiting factor on the 16v and 8v IMO.

[JamesB]

All engines suffer from stock cams. CIS-E if you can get it to behave itself will give you the fuel you need to run a 300hp turbo motor. But getting there and it staying there is what most people have to contend with.

Right now my 8v is built and should make more power, but even after swapping brains twice i still run very lean (great for power but bad for longevity of the motor.) So I been trying to get it tuned to stay in the comfortable fueling range.

[shwah]

I can run as rich as I want on my car, though it does have a slight slope from rich to lean through the power band moving from high 12s to low 13s on a typical dyno pull.

[JamesB]

That was the plan for this year with my car, but then my house took away my dyno monies, so I am still doing what I can using just and AF meter.