Does anyone cheat?

[73itb]

I am curious to see how many IT'ers out there are not completely playing by the rules. I figure the Miata guys are probally following the books pretty tightly. I would like to know what percentage of the NeDiv IT has squeezed some modifications onto their cars that may not pass tech. If so, what is the most popular cheat? A quick walk around A paddock at LRP would suggest iillegal gnition mods. Just curious, not pointing any fingers...Matt

[73itb]

I sure hope no cars from the other regions come race with us with illegal modifications. You know who you are. If you narc on me, I will narc on you. Just Kidding, but seriously, the NeDiv is a gruop of gentlemen racers. Lets continue this tradition. P.S. I thought that car only had disc brakes up front.....Matt

[Ron Earp]

Matt, spit it out - what are you trying to say? You've seen people cheating in the NE? You want them to stop? you want them to agree to let you and others "all cheat together"?

[gran racing]

Yeah Matt, I'm curious what you're getting and don't understand the post. When talking about gentleman racers, typically that means people will let items slide. Especially as someone gets closer to the front, people will not look the other way. Don't have a working horn or washer bottle, no, I won't file an official protest. Something else? Don't look shocked when getting a call from the stewards. If someone wants rules to be changed, send a request to the ITAC.

On the other side if you know someone has illegal parts, it's our responsibility to self-police our fields. Talk to the driver about the parts (maybe they have no clue, which doesn't mean it's right), and/or file a protest.

All this is said as one of many NER ITB drivers who work very hard at becoming a good driver, and building a fast and legal racecar.

[Knestis]

The only thing that I know of on the Golf that's currently not legal (and it may be solved by now) is that we don't have the timing belt pulley guards on it. There are a couple of close-call items: The door wiring harnesses aren't installed correctly (they're stuffed in the rear quarter panels); and the front track on one side is too close for comfort to being too wide with the current spacers (blame the most recent fender replacement and not double checking until after Andy pointed out that Beran had questioned it at the ARRC).

I'm picky about this stuff, since I've historically been pretty vocal about cheating and rules creep so I know I'm a high profile target. If you see something wrong with my car, I'd really appreciate you saying something so it can be fixed.

Do other people cheat? Yeah, I have no question. I think gear ratios are a common cheat in VWs. There are just too many of them, it's too easy to do, it makes a big difference, and it's expensive to call someone on it.

K

[JeffYoung]

I guess the turbine is probably pushing the limit of the rules.

My car is actually a 3/4 replica of a TR8. Crash repairs, ya know?

I installed a big 48" sucker fan in the floorboard of the car for downforce. I mean driver comfort.

Is my trunk monkey legal? It doesn't say you can, but then again, it says nothing about mammals in the car and we do allow a driver.

Speed Racer had oil slicks. So do I. I just don't have steering wheel control over them. THey do it on their own. Legal?

I may install a navigation system. Thoughts?

[erlrich]

Hasn't anyone told you yet - EVERYONE in IT cheats!!!

[lateapex911]

Hasn't anyone told you yet - EVERYONE in IT cheats!!!

He's kidding.

But..that said, there certainly are cheaters out there, and it doesn't take too long to find them. heck, I've heard that certain areas have agreements to allow certain things.

I'm with Kirk and Dave..you see something on my car, let me know. I'm not looking to take even a 10th place finish if it's not legit.

[Ron Earp]

I'm with Kirk and Dave..you see something on my car, let me know. I'm not looking to take even a 10th place finish if it's not legit.

11th or greater is okay isn't it? I cheat like a mo fo and figured as long as I wasn't in the top 10 it was cool.

[gran racing]

Not okay but there's less motivation to protest someone. The process isn't quick and easy in the majority of cases, is stressful probably even more so on the protestor's side, and often isn't thought of (key word, though versus truly isn't) worth it in many circumstances.

[Ron Earp]

I'm just kidding of course.

So Matt, what is the reason for the post? See something illegal in the paddock you want to call out?

[dj10]

I am curious to see how many IT'ers out there are not completely playing by the rules. I figure the Miata guys are probally following the books pretty tightly. I would like to know what percentage of the NeDiv IT has squeezed some modifications onto their cars that may not pass tech. If so, what is the most popular cheat? A quick walk around A paddock at LRP would suggest iillegal gnition mods. Just curious, not pointing any fingers...Matt

Matt, just walk around and see how many cars have short shifters, not a big deal. Don't worry about cheaters just be a better person and don't cheat yourself. Get good at driving and beat the cheaters by your skill.

[Flyin' MacLean]

The guys who've beaten me on track are all cheating

[JLawton]

Matt,

Be carefull about generalizations, you are going to offend people. Feel free to come right out and tell us what the real issue is.............

[Ron Earp]

The guys who've beaten me on track are all cheating

You too????? That is exactly what is happening down here in the Southeast!!!!

[erlrich]

The guys who've beaten me on track are all cheating

Exactly - that why I said everyone is cheating

[JeffYoung]

Dude, you are cheating! You have a truck motor in that car!

[Ron Earp]

Dude, you are cheating! You have a truck motor in that car!

So do you. Cheater!

[JeffYoung]

Mine is a high performance, F1 winning design. Back off dude! That thing the size of a house in your car has got to have way too many gerbils in it.

[IPRESS]

Flyin,
We weren't cheating in that 1.6 were we? It was so fast I felt like it!