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    Quote Originally Posted by SportsCar View Post
    Can someone educate me
    Generally, it's the job of a journalist is to educate themselves on the topic they wish to cover, but I did respond to your email with some details. Please fill yourself in on all the facts before creating an article or it will not be much of a service to the community. I'd recommend browsing through all the links and info from the original posting here, specifically the discussion on the http://specmiata.com/ web forums.

    Thanks for your time,
    Jeff Seelig; IT POG Admin
    -Jeff S
    '07 Mid-Am ITA Champion
    '07 St.Louis Region Driver of the Year

    www.plainoldgas.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by 77ITA View Post
    Generally, it's the job of a journalist is to educate themselves on the topic they wish to cover
    Cant fault the guy for asking questions of the people that know what they're talking about or have first hand experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 77ITA View Post
    Generally, it's the job of a journalist is to educate themselves on the topic they wish to cover, but I did respond to your email with some details. Please fill yourself in on all the facts before creating an article or it will not be much of a service to the community. I'd recommend browsing through all the links and info from the original posting here, specifically the discussion on the SM web forums.

    Thanks for your time,
    Jeff Seelig; IT POG Admin
    Typically in an effort to educate ourselves on any topic we seek out experts in that field... As the self proclaimed POG Admin I suppose you could qualify as some type of expert. On the other hand I don't know if you are a chemist/fuel engineer, or just someone who does not like others to spend more money to go fast.

    When I talk to an engineer at the fuel manufacturer, I know they are qualified and will give me factual data.

    I have looked at your site as well as the links to it. I see a lot of complaints about exotic fuels and there alleged effects, but no specifics as to the fuels in question. This is your opportunity to inform us on your side of the issue, if you leave information out that you deem important to your cause, that would be a shame.

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    I bet if you try www.vpracingfuels.com there would be some useful information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SportsCar View Post
    Typically in an effort to educate ourselves on any topic we seek out experts in that field... As the self proclaimed POG Admin I suppose you could qualify as some type of expert.
    I'm doing the best I can to support a cause that I believe in, but unfortunately I don't have large quantities of spare time. Your first e-mail to me was rather vague and attempting to summarize everything for you via email would surely cause you to lose out on some important details and perspectives. It's your job as an journalist to seek out all the information on the subject and there's not much more that I can tell you other than what is available in [easily accessible] online print.

    I did email you with the contact information of someone that is eager to contribute as well as a few more details that I had to offer.

    All this being said, I apologize for coming off brash. I can't tell you how much I appreciate your objective coverage on the subject and I am sure it will be of much value to the Club Racing community as well as the POG effort.

    Thanks again,
    -Jeff S
    '07 Mid-Am ITA Champion
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    www.plainoldgas.com

    Honda S2000 for ITR in the works

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    Quote Originally Posted by SportsCar View Post

    When I talk to an engineer at the fuel manufacturer, I know they are qualified to give me factual data.....

    I
    Helped you out with that...

    Whether you get it, and whether you get the entire picture, even from one source, is another thing entirely. Just sayin'...........
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    BTW, I've got my sticky on...

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    VP SR1 is one of the fuels a bunch of Spec Miata guys are running...or at least talking about. Using this fuel I saw +2.5 HP on the dyno with my '91, and that's vs. a VERY good AFM. I took the opportunity to tune a second AFM for the "bad" stuff just in case I ever decided to run it - with my good AFM I went too lean with the rocket fuel, and I wasn't about to dink with the good AFM for a "might run it" fuel. As it's happened, I've never run the stuff and doubt I ever will.

    ERC also has a product that produces more power than POG. My understanding is that it adds slightly less power than the VP fuel, but is also "some" cheaper.

    The SR1 fuel has a slightly different scent to it, but isn't the worst offender; if you ever want to clear everyone out of your paddock spot, crack open a jug of ERC - it will do the job, even if the wind is blowing.

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    I've been MIA due to a new house, a new job, and an S2000 ITR car that may never see the light of day. No fear though, as POG is still running strong. Updated the list today!

    thanks,
    -Jeff
    -Jeff S
    '07 Mid-Am ITA Champion
    '07 St.Louis Region Driver of the Year

    www.plainoldgas.com

    Honda S2000 for ITR in the works

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    What a great idea, when I get the car finished you bet I'd support this. Keep Grass roots racing what it is.!
    Racer of old BMW's.
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