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    Question Pony Car Proposal for ITR

    Any more news on the Pony Car proposal for ITR? I read in the last FastTrack that the proposal was still under discussion. I'm assuming it is dead or rejected, but thought I'd ask around before pronouncing time of death.

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    Who was the famous guy who said, "Rumours or reports of my death are greatly exaggerated"???

    relax..the fat lady aint singing yet.
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    It's not dead. It's not even on life support.

    The best analogy is that it's sitting in an overcrowded waiting room, reading old issues of Road & Track, with the subscriber's address blacked out in marker. Sicker patients or those with easy diagnoses keep getting put in front of it in the queue but its number WILL come up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knestis View Post
    It's not dead. It's not even on life support.

    The best analogy is that it's sitting in an overcrowded waiting room, reading old issues of Road & Track, with the subscriber's address blacked out in marker. Sicker patients or those with easy diagnoses keep getting put in front of it in the queue but its number WILL come up.

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    .......And it's already seen the docs, once for Xrays, and then again for an MRI, the docs are discussing things as the R&T pages get flipped........
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    It was Mark Twain:

    "The rumors of my death have been greatly exaggerated."
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    Ahhh, yes, of course. I was close...got the jist at least. Thanks..I should have remembered that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lateapex911 View Post
    .......And it's already seen the docs, once for Xrays, and then again for an MRI, the docs are discussing things as the R&T pages get flipped........
    I think the docs have moved on to other things, like National IT.

    Where do things stand on the RX8?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Earp View Post
    Where do things stand on the RX8?
    Watch Fastrack for that one.
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    Cool. So it is in. What weight?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoshS View Post
    Watch Fastrack for that one.
    Ok. What about the Pony cars?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Earp View Post
    Ok. What about the Pony cars?
    Doctors are still discussing approaches ... not dead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Earp View Post
    I think the docs have moved on to other things, like National IT. ...
    ...and while it might be a little counterintuitive for folks, the IT Goes National discussion isn't even really an ITAC agenda item. Frankly, the only committee discussions we're having are of the nature of "what is our role?"

    Obviously, as individual members some of us are more involved than that...

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    At what weight is the RX8 classed?
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    That will be in the FasTrack, Jeff. Since the ITAC sends a recommendation to the board; and they can take it, adapt it, or act contrary to it; even we won't know for sure until it's published.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knestis View Post
    That will be in the FasTrack, Jeff. Since the ITAC sends a recommendation to the board; and they can take it, adapt it, or act contrary to it; even we won't know for sure until it's published.

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    So what weight did you send them??
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    This is one of those times when you're all going to need to be a little patient.

    Besides, the car isn't even eligible until next season (5-year rule). Don't worry about it!
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    Hmmmm..if the ITAC has made a recommendation on weight, I'd publish it for comment. There is going to be controversy about this one one way or the other and the more transparent you are, the less flack you will receive. I think.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffYoung View Post
    Hmmmm..if the ITAC has made a recommendation on weight, I'd publish it for comment. There is going to be controversy about this one one way or the other and the more transparent you are, the more biased, personal agenda driven input you will receive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffYoung View Post
    Hmmmm..if the ITAC has made a recommendation on weight, I'd publish it for comment. There is going to be controversy about this one one way or the other and the more transparent you are, the less flack you will receive. I think.....
    Based on the letters we got, which DEMANDED weights between 2700 and 3400 lbs, I'm pretty sure that no matter what, we'll get flack.

    Everyone's letter was very clear that there was only one right answer, yet the right answer apparently had a huge range. Fun.
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    I've got no dog in the fight guys. I did write the proposal because I thought the car should be in the class, but I honestly don't care where the weight comes out and I have 0 intent to build one. It will also be a long time before I build a R car, if at all.

    That said my research on the numbers was in the 2800 lb range, but I could be wrong and I through that out simply as a full disclosure.

    You guys are right, you are not going to avoid flak altogether over this. But I'm telling you, you need to make the process as transparent as possible because this is one that has potential for disaster both ways.
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