Am I reading this right?

[dominojd]

2008 Prize Money Discontinued

At the SCCA Roundtable in Ithaca on March 15 the NARRC Committee voted to abolish the prize fund and redirect the fee as follows:
The NARRC Committee will collect $6.00 of each entry fee from each NARRC sanctioned race.
$3.00 of the fund is for Marketing and Advertising.
$3.00 goes toward the NARRC Administrative fund for trophies, banquet costs, etc.

No more NARRC checks?

[dickita15]

Well I said to myself “Joe must be crazy” nobody said anything about such a change. But that is what the website says they did. In the past the $6 was split $1 administration - $5 points fund. Last year they collected $13.998 of which was split $11,655 points fund and $2,333 for overhead, although a small amount of the points money would not have been returned in the more undersubscribed classes.
Personally I don’t care about the points fund but if it is going to be stopped lower the fee rather than set up another bureaucracy.

[Andy Bettencourt]

This is correct. When driver feedback was solicited last year, many said that the money fund was not near their top priority in terms of what makes (or could make) the NARRC a great series.

Add to that the NARRC 'sanction' fee may have been keeping NARRC points events from joining with certain events at certain tracks - it was thought that a lower number might help us get ito some of those races.

People also wanted better trophies. So the choice was then some cash or some kick-butt trophies. Here is what they have done in the SARRC series with their money:

Gear bag with year and SARRC champion logo
Medium weight jacket embroidered with a big SARRC logo on the back and their name, class and SARRC champion on the breast pocket.
4 t-shirts with SARRC logo on back and year champ on the front.
2? polo shirts with embroidered breast pocket logo and year champ
4 embroided hats
4 SARRC year champ bumper stickers
4 SARRC year champ patches
trophy plaque

Option to pay for some additional units for crew as well.

The NARRC is YOUR series. Reps for each run group were suppose to solicit your opinion on a variety of topics over the winter. That feedback was presented to the NARRC committee at the NARRC winter meeting and the new formats were set up.

If this doesn't work out, we can continue to modify as the participants let their thoughts known.

[lateapex911]

Interesting........

From my point of view, I'd probably (In the highly unlikely event I won, LOL) hand the jacket back..I'd never wear it. Why have it collect dust and take up space?

I'd rather have the trophy, and a check, and in case the trophy sucks, I'd use the money to go have my own trophy made.

I'm confused on your second point Andy...but it's probably because of my lack of information/knowledge as to the way the system works.

And half goes to "marketing"?? What is that, exactly?

Here's my take....there are maybe 3 or 4 guys in any given class that really have a chance of winning the deal, and those guys are the ones that will subscribe to the series. Everyone else probably can't be bothered...if there's nothing in it for them.

If you make it so the guys further down the line have something to gain, then I would think your subscription will increase.

[Andy Bettencourt]

I am not part of the 'marketing' piece of it but I assume it is to promote the series.

I think we all knew that not everyone was going to be happy with this decision but when the oppotunity came for feedback, most said forget the money. In most classes, it's almost not worth the effort. Ask Jeff what his check was for this year....

Again, weigh in when the meetings happen and when you are asked for feedback - this is a dynamic series - hopefully building each year. It's OUR series and the PTB are listening - trust me.

[dominojd]

Wow feed back huh? I was never asked. I sure liked getinng my $286 dollar check this year it at least paid for NHIS entry instead of a gear bag or a jacket.

What is this marketing?

Oh I live in Califronia, but this Narrc series looks really cool maybe i'll run it, please. Everyone in the NE is already in the NARRC series just look at the points what were there something like 80 people in ITA last year some only ran one race.

I say leave it the way it was and give me cash with my crappy wine glass trophy which probaly cost me 10K plus to get.

[tom_sprecher]

From my point of view, I'd probably (In the highly unlikely event I won, LOL) hand the jacket back..I'd never wear it.

To each his own but you would be one of the few. In my experience of handing the SARRC bag of goodies to the drivers that do not attend the SEDiv Annual Convention and Banquet the first thing they do is dig out the jacket and put it on.

In the spring and fall anyone who has won a SARRC jacket is wearing it in the paddock. We also change the color from time to time as well.

It's like at each race we hand out a "SARRC Event Winner" sticker that is black on silver to each class winner. Most guys could not care less about getting the trophy but you had better damn have his sticker so he can put it on his car.

SOmething about bragging rights.

[dickita15]

This is correct. When driver feedback was solicited last year, many said that the money fund was not near their top priority in terms of what makes (or could make) the NARRC a great series.

Add to that the NARRC 'sanction' fee may have been keeping NARRC points events from joining with certain events at certain tracks - it was thought that a lower number might help us get ito some of those races.

But this change does nothing to address your second point Andy. The fee is still $6 per car it just goes into an administrative pit.

[dominojd]

But this change does nothing to address your second point Andy. The fee is still $6 per car it just goes into an administrative pit.

Oh but wait Dick $3 goes toward trophies and the banquet expenses. I guess this means the Banquet will be free to all Narrc participants, right and the winners in class will recieve a grandfather clock or something substancial as a tropy?

[Doc Bro]

I'll be glad to weigh in that I was all for better trophies and a money fund. Specifically I stated emphatically that the NARRC was our (IT) championship and it's prestige and credibility should be promoted and preserved. I was in direct conflict with a wing guy (FA..I think) who says the trophies don't matter and that he gives them to his crew. I feel that the opinions of the regional only classes should have more weight in regards to decisions made that effect a regional championship. Regional only classes have few other options. I apologize if I didn't hunt down every ITA driver for an opinion, but I do feel that the thoughts that I mentioned were well informed and would represent the thoughts of the people who would be impacted. I didn't approach the subject from the point of view of the competitors who had less than 50 points. I was proud of my $67 NARRC check...I asked Vic how it felt to be married to a professional racecar driver.

R

[dickita15]

Oh but wait Dick $3 goes toward trophies and the banquet expenses. I guess this means the Banquet will be free to all Narrc participants, right and the winners in class will recieve a grandfather clock or something substancial as a tropy?

I see no smiley faces in you post Joe so I must assume you are serious. I must also assume our drivers committee know exactly what we are getting with regard to a better banquet and trophies for the tripling of the administrative fee from $2,333 to $7 grand.
I also assume that they have a projected budget for the $7000 that is being taxed for Marketing and Advertising.
I assume that none of our representatives would allow an extra $11,655 to be taken out of the drivers pockets without knowing the benefit.

[Tkczecheredflag]

My two cents.

Watching the NARRC points and Money Fund to see who has qualified for the Prize Money, has always been part of my "update routine" at the NARRC site. I collected four or five checks over the years - I have photocopied ALL of them - folded them and either inserted them in the trophy or attached them to the rear of the plaque - a great momento.

I am a big believer that after this "racing thing" is all said and done, all we have are the videos tapes, the "hardware", the photo copies of a couple of checks, and maybe the opportunity to talk a little trash.