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    Default Set up records

    Ok Zpilots, help me build my set up files for my car/track.

    I got nothing, nada, zilch as far as set up logs for my car when I purchased it. I am trying to build records of my set up so I can at least learn from my mistakes and create some starting points for the tracks around the Southeast.

    My question, beyond the normal tire pressure, suspension settings (ie camber, toe, corner weight, etc), tire heat cycles etc, what kinds of data do you guys record?

    If I am able to put together a decent list of parameters I will put it into a spread sheet and share it with you all.

    Paul
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    Temperatures -- air, water and oil

    Sway bar settings

    Hot and cold tire pressures

    Spring rates

    Lap times obviously

    Fuel load

    Corner weights if you know them


    Quote Originally Posted by pballance View Post
    Ok Zpilots, help me build my set up files for my car/track.

    I got nothing, nada, zilch as far as set up logs for my car when I purchased it. I am trying to build records of my set up so I can at least learn from my mistakes and create some starting points for the tracks around the Southeast.

    My question, beyond the normal tire pressure, suspension settings (ie camber, toe, corner weight, etc), tire heat cycles etc, what kinds of data do you guys record?

    If I am able to put together a decent list of parameters I will put it into a spread sheet and share it with you all.

    Paul
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    Dig around there are examples out there. Maybe somebody will post theirs here.

    Most important, I think, at least for me (I wear the driver, the DAG, the Crew chief, the tow rig driver and the manager hats) is the section for notes. I "debrief" myself, and write down my thoughts after a session. I try to break it down into car thoughts and driver thoughts, but often those are intertwined. nevertheless, it's (I think) a good idea to do it right after the session.

    Things like "consistent mid corner push in 1, no matter the line I chose, or the throttle position, but good balance off 1. Always loose on initial lift/turn in 5, sometimes it sees like it really wants to go around. front end goes wide over bumps in 8", or similar. If I gave those to a guy like Lee Grimes, he'd probably give me two adjustments and I'd be golden!

    Now, with changes made to reflect those issues, you can go and look at your notes, and the data to see if there are gains made, and if so, how they were made.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lateapex911 View Post
    (I wear the driver, the DAG, the Crew chief, the tow rig driver, fire man and the manager hats) .




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    Quote Originally Posted by lateapex911 View Post
    Dig around there are examples out there. Maybe somebody will post theirs here.

    Things like "consistent mid corner push in 1, no matter the line I chose, or the throttle position, but good balance off 1. Always loose on initial lift/turn in 5, sometimes it sees like it really wants to go around. front end goes wide over bumps in 8", or similar. If I gave those to a guy like Lee Grimes, he'd probably give me two adjustments and I'd be golden!

    Now, with changes made to reflect those issues, you can go and look at your notes, and the data to see if there are gains made, and if so, how they were made.
    Thats good, keep 'em coming.........
    Paul Ballance
    Tennessee Valley Region (yeah it's in Alabama)
    ITS '72
    1972 240Z
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    Checkout the www.bimmerworld.com page. I think they have an excellent setup sheet/notes pdf you can print and use.
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    That is the sheet I use.
    Here is a link.
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    http://www.bimmerworld.com/techtips/...UP%20SHEET.pdf

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    That's a nice sheet. Thanks!
    Paul Ballance
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    Quote Originally Posted by pballance View Post

    My question, beyond the normal tire pressure, suspension settings (ie camber, toe, corner weight, etc), tire heat cycles etc, what kinds of data do you guys record?
    I don't have much as I just started recording this info last Spring when it was apparent if I wanted to race I'd best be racing a 260Z....

    I do have the suspension settings, weight, heat cycles, air temp, carb settings, tire pressures, and on occasion tire temps, as well as general observations about how the car feels etc. I use an hour meter in the car that helps me figure out how long things last, a good investment I think.

    I might try those setup sheets that are posted, could be a big help.

    I have some notes for Roebling, CMP, and VIR, but you might not want my notes!!!! Still lots of car sorting on my machine before I'd consider the notes worthwhile, still, you'd be welcome to them.

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