NJMP SA2005 helmet rule?

[disquek]

I got a card from EMRA today saying that NJMP will REQUIRE drivers to have an SA2005 helmet per the NJ Motor Vehicle Racetrack Regulations.

So I looked those regulations up:
http://www.nj.gov/njsp/info/pdf/racing_regulations.pdf

It looks like EMRA is right.

This SUCKS. I guess I'm gonna skip NJMP. I'm not paying a $500-$1000 tax just to run there.

What a dumb rule. Your tax dollars at work ...

I was really looking forward to racing there too.



Kyle

[wdether]

I got a card from EMRA today saying that NJMP will REQUIRE drivers to have an SA2005 helmet per the NJ Motor Vehicle Racetrack Regulations.

So I looked those regulations up:
http://www.nj.gov/njsp/info/pdf/racing_regulations.pdf

It looks like EMRA is right.

This SUCKS. I guess I'm gonna skip NJMP. I'm not paying a $500-$1000 tax just to run there.

What a dumb rule. Your tax dollars at work ...

I was really looking forward to racing there too.



Kyle

Kyle,
What is EMRA's safety rules say about helmets and other safety equipment? I wouldn't panic just yet. SA2000? What exactly does the card say?

[disquek]

These are state laws (remember when the CT State Police would tell you when to run rains at LRP).

I don't think it matters what EMRA, SCCA, SVRA, IMSA, or whoever think.

The track needs a license from the state. The sanctioning body needs a track. And we need a sanctioning body.

We need to write both the track and the NJ State Government to ask for some sense here. If this regulation doesn't change, we will need SA2005 helmets.

Kyle

[dickita15]

You know I remember hearing a while ago when we were having problems with CT DOT at Lime Rock that New Jersey was the only other state that had jurisdiction over racing. Did not think much of it at the time as we were not racing in NJ.
Kyle, don’t panic yet, let the region get into it. I am sure Bill has already alerted the RE.

[disquek]

Thanks Dick!

As always, I really appreciate your help!

-Kyle

[dtanthon]

The Jersey Racing Board ( the JRB ) contacted Snell Memorial Foundation, which anyone can do.

We were informed, and will get an email shortly, that Snell has no expiration date for any of its helmet standards, just recommendations for how often to replace them, which is the most current and the most recent after that (SA2005 and SA2000).

So: "which meets the most recent Snell Memorial Foundation Testing Standards M or SA, incorporated by reference herein, as may be amended and supplemented, which has not reached the expiration date established by the Snell Memorial Foundation at the time of the event"

Means: any Snell M or SA helmet should be fine since they never technically expire.

We have our own SCCA rules that govern the requirements for helmets, see the GCR - 9.3.19. DRIVER’S SAFETY EQUIPMENT.

Hope to see you all at NJMP in 2008! Check www.NJRRS.com

Also, remember to get your Driving Impressions Pro-IT information into the website. Should be a fun series in 2008!

Thanks,
Darrell Anthony
NNJR-RE
JRB member

[erlrich]

So: "which meets the most recent Snell Memorial Foundation Testing Standards M or SA, incorporated by reference herein, as may be amended and supplemented, which has not reached the expiration date established by the Snell Memorial Foundation at the time of the event"


Thanks,
Darrell Anthony
NNJR-RE
JRB member

Darrell - not trying to nit pick, but I think the part of the rule that is causing the problem is the "which meets the most recent Snell Memorial Foundation Testing Standards M or SA". The most recent standard is of course SA2005.

I would very interested to hear what the track has to say about this; I was also giving serious consideration to attending one of the events (either EMRA or SCCA) there this year, but will not until I'm certain my SA00 helmet will be allowed.

[disquek]

Good news.

I wrote the track and got a response from Joe Volpe.

He says we'll be allowed to use SA2000 and SA2005 helmets and that the track is working on a clarification page for their website.

How this fits in with the regulation that says:
"which meets the most recent Snell ...", I have no idea. But it's what I wanted to hear, so don't harsh my buzz.

Kyle

[lateapex911]

Good news.

........r, so don't harsh my buzz.

Kyle

....and don't bogart that joint, ...my friend......

(name the band)

[erlrich]

....and don't bogart that joint, ...my friend......

(name the band)

Don't know for a fact, but that sure sounds like something you would expect to hear at a Dead concert

Kyle, that's excellent news - have you passed this info along to anyone from EMRA?

[keycom]

....and don't bogart that joint, ...my friend......

(name the band)

Fraternity of Man from the Easy Rider soundtrack.
Covered by Little Feat and the Grateful Dead I believe.

I never inhaled! So I can still remember the sixties!!!

[pgipson]

....and don't bogart that joint, ...my friend......

(name the band)

I think that line is also in a Steppenwolf song something like "don't bogart that joint my friend pass it over to me"

[RacerBill]

How about the seat belt requirement -

"1. SFI 16.1 or SFI 16.5, incorporated herein by reference

and available at http://www.s

fi foundation.com, seat
belts shall be valid for two years from the month and year
punched or indicated on the SFI tag. There shall be one
original tag attached to one of the two shoulder belts, one
original tag attached to one of the lap belts, and a third
original tag attached to the crotch belt."

GCR states two years from the last day of the year stamped..... Also, I have belts that have a tag on only the lap belt, not the shoulder harness or the submarine strap.

[Ken Grammer]

I would very interested to hear what the track has to say about this; I was also giving serious consideration to attending one of the events (either EMRA or SCCA) there this year, but will not until I'm certain my SA00 helmet will be allowed.

We met with the NJ State Police earlier this month and as a fellow racer, I can tell you we are working with a really good group of guys. They are fellow motorsports enthusiasts who simply want to ensure we all get to enjoy safe road racing in New Jersey.

We discussed several points in the law, including the helmet rule, at length and verified that SA2000 helmets will indeed be allowed, provided of course that the group you race with allows them.

If you have questions or concerns, I urge you to e-mail us since we will have a very close and active working relationship with the NJSP. We will also be posting some clarifications as soon as we receive feedback to our current list of questions.

Good luck with your racing programs this spring, and we are looking forward to seeing you at NJMP later this summer.