Exactly what Greg said.
Exactly what Greg said.
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What Dave just said.
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Come on Joe!. Aren't you running a NARRC schedule with some extras thrown in...just like me (IT-Fest, etc)?
I too, have no care in the world what REGION hosts an event...but I sure as hell care what series it is. You guys are kidding yourselves if you think there aren't guys who work their schedule around one - or both - of these series.
Yes, you guys choose the events that suit you, independent of the series. Plenty of us choose the events that suit us, INSIDE a series.
Ya'll have to understand all the work that has gone into a revamp of the NARRC this offseason. Rules, schedule, points, - all gone over and tweaked per driver request. The reason this issue is important to some of us is that this one issue has the ability to hurt two regions...one of the specific problems we *tried* to design out of the system this off-season.
Again, we can argue all day about WHAT pisses us off about two events on one day, but we sure as heck can agree that the result is less than desirable to us for a variety of reasons.
Last edited by Andy Bettencourt; 02-18-2008 at 10:00 AM.
Regardless on how you feel about running at Pocono, there is something to consider about the Pocono event. Track time. No track gives you less track time than Limerock. In addition to the double regional at Pocono there will be a Pro-IT race, adding 40 minutes to the total.
I think it is a lose-lose proposition to hold regional races at Limerock and Pocono on the same weekend.
Bill Etherington
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Re: holding concurrent events - you guys need to check the GCR and SCCA Operations Manual regarding distance restrictions for Regional races held within the same division. The rule used to be "200 miles", I think.
Unless that's changed, there probably isn't a chance in hell that you could shedule a Regional at Pocono and another one at LRP. Regional-National ? Yes. Regional-School ? Yes. Regional-Regional ? Nope.
Dick - I think it was in the Ops Manual. Don't have one handy right now.
Food for thought
There is track time and there is track time 'value'. This LRP double should afford 80 minutes of track time to the racers whearas a 'satndard' double at Pocono only typically pays 74 minutes.
Now on a dollar per minute examination, it's different. As an example using last years Pocono NARRC race plus the projected Pro IT and an estimate on LRP times based on last year...
Pocono Double: 12 minute qual + 22 minute race x 2 = 74 minutes of track time for $310
Pro IT: 12 minute qual + 40 minute race = 52 minutes for $200
52+74=126 for $510
$510 / 126 = $4.05 per minute
LRP: True double so lets assume two singles put together
20 minute practice/qual + 20 minute race = 40 minutes x 2 days
(Estimate from reliable source) $425/80 = $5.31 per minute
Even at $300 for the Pro IT race, the Pocono event comes in at $4.84 per minute - with an opportunity to win it all back...at $200 it should be a GREAT series. http://www.njrrs.com/proit.html
Then you figure in series preference, track/facility preference, distance preference, etc and you get your answers.
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