Results 1 to 20 of 248

Thread: Breaking News from LRP

Hybrid View

Previous Post Previous Post   Next Post Next Post
  1. #1

    Default Breaking News from LRP

    At this monment and still unconfirmed (waiting for the call back from the track), but fom a very reliable source. I have been informed that the first 2 SCCA events at LRP may not be able to happen because of the scheduled resurfacing project slated for start as soon as the weather breakes.

    I was told that the track may offer July 3rd 4th and 5th as an alternative.

    What does the masses think?

    These new dates are a direct conflict with NNJR's pocono event and would probably cause a failure of both events if they occured together.

    What about the second drivers school? with no dates available do you think we will be hurt in the future by making newbies wait till october for the Glen?

    Brian m
    Last edited by bg43wex; 02-15-2008 at 03:14 PM.
    Brian Mushnick
    88 VW Golf 16v ITA (deceased)
    92 Golf GTI 1.8l H Prod
    [email protected]

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Mar 2001
    Location
    Connecticut
    Posts
    7,381

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by bg43wex View Post
    ...scheduled resurfacing project slated for start as soon as the weather breaks.
    "Here we go", indeed...

    I was told that the track may offer July 3rd 4th and 5th as an alternative...these new dates are a direct conflict with NNJR's pocono event and would probably cause a failure of both events if they occured together.
    I suggest the answer to that is obvious: don't schedule an event conflict. I'd rather reduce the number of available dates than take the chance of destroying both.

    Plus, July 3rd is a work day. I wouldn't personally be taking an additional day off for that.

    Will we lose rights to events next year if we choose to pass on the alternative? Of course, the "scheduled paving" means Skippy got his Club members, so we may be losing dates regardless...

    What about the second drivers school? with no dates available do you think we will be hurt in the future by making newbies wait till october for the Glen?
    Any sense of the demand for the second school this year? Obviously, making ANYONE wait is a bad thing, but maybe we can work around it depending on the demand. All the cool licensed drivers instruct at a July 3/4 Thursday/Friday school (no Regional) then we all travel en masse Friday night to the Regional at Pocono? I *would* consider an extra work day for instructing.

    This is a toughie, eh? Should be a "fun" year... - GA

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Location
    newington, ct
    Posts
    4,182

    Default

    Yeah, I've been told that the repave will happen in June but wasn't sure how it would impact the two SCCA events. I was being very optimistic in thinking it would all happen right between the two events. Yeah, I know. It sure would be nice to know the impact it will have to these events soon.
    Dave Gran
    Real Roads, Real Car Guys – Real World Road Tests
    Go Ahead - Take the Wheel's Free Guide to Racing

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Northeast
    Posts
    7,031

    Default

    Skip has plenty of members already. The plan is a 'glass smooth surface' much more extensive than originally planned.

    I also would like not to have conficting events. Let's see if we can leverage this inconvienence into some prime dates (or even a discount - ya) next year.

    The "Club' already has 60 track days this year. I am looking at their schedule right now. They were independent of what we had on our sched.
    Andy Bettencourt
    New England Region 188967

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Location
    CT
    Posts
    982

    Default

    This is a tough situation, but I would not have 2 dates compete with each other as it would be a looser for both parties, although if push comes to shove I think LRP would win as many would want to get on the track surface.
    Jeremy Billiel

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Jun 2002
    Location
    Bushkill PA
    Posts
    813

    Default

    I would suggest sticking with Pocono and dump LRP. Well yeah my decsion is sway by my location, but we haven't had 2 pocono events in years and if the region putting it on this year loses I guess we will never see it again.

    I think we shouldn't go to LRp until the NARRC off's then everyone will have a even playing field on the newly paved track.
    Crazy Joe
    #01 ITA
    Nissan Sentra SE-R
    www.kakashiracing.com
    [email protected]
    www.kesslerengineering.com (Matt's the man)
    First non CRX at IT Fest 2009 2nd place overall
    2008 ITA NARRC & NYSRRC Champion

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Mar 2001
    Location
    MA
    Posts
    642

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Andy Bettencourt View Post
    The plan is a 'glass smooth surface' much more extensive than originally planned.
    until the ALMS cars come in and pull it up again :cool:
    Doug
    NER.org webmaster (retired)
    the16v.com Photography
    briansgarage.com


  8. #8
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Location
    Lagrangeville, NY
    Posts
    694

    Default

    Any idea what the two new configurations are?

    http://www.nescca.com/nescca_main/cl....html#repaving
    Chris Raffaelli
    NER 24FP

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Northeast
    Posts
    7,031

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Amy View Post


    Any sense of the demand for the second school this year? Obviously, making ANYONE wait is a bad thing, but maybe we can work around it depending on the demand. All the cool licensed drivers instruct at a July 3/4 Thursday/Friday school (no Regional) then we all travel en masse Friday night to the Regional at Pocono? I *would* consider an extra work day for instructing.
    I just re-read this. A VERY creative idea indeed! I am sure Flatout would be willing to support the school as instructors as well and then move along to Pocono.

    Maybe a discount at Pocono to drivers who get signed off at LRP and race that weekend.

    I like it!!!
    Andy Bettencourt
    New England Region 188967

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Sep 2001
    Location
    hampden,ma.usa
    Posts
    3,083

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Andy Bettencourt View Post
    I just re-read this. A VERY creative idea indeed! I am sure Flatout would be willing to support the school as instructors as well and then move along to Pocono.

    Maybe a discount at Pocono to drivers who get signed off at LRP and race that weekend.

    I like it!!!
    With the economics of Lime Rock a region can survive doing a school / regional with two days rent. I do not believe it is possible to pay for Thursday and Friday or even just Friday with the entries from a school. The school would have to be very expensive.
    The one interesting thing about the Friday Saturday 4th and 5th dates is they could both be race days.
    I am pretty sure with new pavement a lime rock event would work but it would hurt Tri Region’s event a lot.
    dick patullo
    ner scca IT7 Rx7

  11. #11
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Northeast
    Posts
    7,031

    Default

    I am most certianly not informed 100% on what LRP is 'demanding' from us for that new weekend they want to give us but:

    I would be very dissappointed if there were two NARRC events on the same weekend. Just doesn't make any sense to me.

    It also seems to me that since the Tri-Region double is already on the schedule and didn't have any conflict, it should get the nod.

    I guess the NARRC committee could 'pull' the NARRC sanction from that Pocono event and give it to the LRP event...but there is impact to the bonus point situation:

    1. Pocono would lose it's 2nd NARRC event - so it would lose bonus eligibility.
    2. If this LRP race isn't 'rescheduled', then the only race at LRP would be the NARRC runoffs - also eliminating it from bonus eligibility
    3. Does pulling the NARRC sanction from the Tri-Region hurt the inter-regional relationships?
    4. Having two NARRC races on the same weekend really hurts the series and the teamwork that has seemingly been building over this last off-season

    Can someone who was at the NER meeting last night chime in on the thought processes in double scheduling? There is no doubt that a double at LRP on new pavement with a school would be a hugely popular event but lets not do it if it hurts the NeDiv relationships.

    Maybe Tri-Region can have a PDX on Sat and a single on Sun? Drive from LRP to Pocono Sat night for a one day sprint?
    Andy Bettencourt
    New England Region 188967

  12. #12
    Join Date
    Jun 2002
    Location
    Bushkill PA
    Posts
    813

    Default

    It would be kinda shitty to screw Tri Region.
    Crazy Joe
    #01 ITA
    Nissan Sentra SE-R
    www.kakashiracing.com
    [email protected]
    www.kesslerengineering.com (Matt's the man)
    First non CRX at IT Fest 2009 2nd place overall
    2008 ITA NARRC & NYSRRC Champion

  13. #13
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    Northern New Jersey
    Posts
    551

    Default

    Just to clarify. This event at Pocono July 5 and 6 is a Tri-Region event.
    This is a Double NJRRS (www.NJRRS.com) / Double NARRC (www.NARRC.com) with the 2nd round of the Driving Impressions Pro-IT (www.NJRRS.com/proit.html).

    The NNJR event is May 10 and 11 and is a Double NJRRS / Double NARRC with the 1st round of the Driving Impressions Pro-IT.

    NNJR will be at Lime Rock hosting a SCCA National on August 1 and 2. This will have the 3rd round of the Driving Impressions Pro-IT as a support race for the National. The Pro-IT will be Saturday only, Andy may have more detail on the between qualifying and the race activities.

    I left a message with LRP today as well to get more information on the NNJR date. If I hear anything I'll be sure to post.

    Thanks,
    Darrell Anthony
    NNJR-RE

  14. #14
    Join Date
    Mar 2002
    Location
    Black Rock, Ct
    Posts
    9,594

    Default

    So, we have determined that there will be lots of changes, but, we will be able to choose the configuration we run.

    I wonder;

    Will the rental fee be the same for every configuration? (Black helicopter thinking tells me the rent will be more for the configuration the renting club wants, if the management guesses which one that is correctly ahead of time... )

    and...

    which configuration will the test day use?

    (I bet it will vary depending on which pro race is next in the sched, and will match the sanctioning bodies choice., i.e. IMSA/ALMS wants chicanes, so the chicanery (TM) is used.)
    Jake Gulick


    CarriageHouse Motorsports
    for sale: 2003 Audi A4 Quattro, clean, serviced, dark green, auto, sunroof, tan leather with 75K miles.
    IT-7 #57 RX-7 race car
    Porsche 1973 911E street/fun car
    BMW 2003 M3 cab, sun car.
    GMC Sierra Tow Vehicle
    New England Region
    lateapex911(at)gmail(dot)com


  15. #15
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Northeast
    Posts
    7,031

  16. #16
    Join Date
    Jun 2002
    Location
    Bushkill PA
    Posts
    813

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Andy Bettencourt View Post
    Look it's a Flatout commercial.
    Crazy Joe
    #01 ITA
    Nissan Sentra SE-R
    www.kakashiracing.com
    [email protected]
    www.kesslerengineering.com (Matt's the man)
    First non CRX at IT Fest 2009 2nd place overall
    2008 ITA NARRC & NYSRRC Champion

  17. #17
    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Location
    Rockaway, NJ
    Posts
    1,548

    Default

    Just too friggin cool! Who was driving the 91 car?
    BenSpeed
    #33 ITR Porsche 968
    BigSpeed Racing
    2013 ITR Pro IT Champion
    2014 NE Division ITR Champion

  18. #18
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Northeast
    Posts
    7,031

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by benspeed View Post
    Just too friggin cool! Who was driving the 91 car?
    Club member.
    Andy Bettencourt
    New England Region 188967

  19. #19
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    New Britain, Connecticut, U.S. Local Track: Lime Rock Park
    Posts
    130

    Default

    Work continues on the new entrance roads; they look to be paved within a week or so (likely by Memorial Day). I will get some pictures tomorrow, they will be added here (plenty others of the work are already online): http://magicaltrevor2.spaces.live.co...EDB38226!2425/
    In other news, the track has Coca-Cola back as official soft drink partner.
    "Dumb people are always blissfully unaware of how dumb they really are."
    "Don't genius live in a lamp?"
    -Patrick Star
    NER Board Member

Bookmarks

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •