So, who's goin'?

[R2 Racing]

My vote is for the 20 minute & 40 minute combination, each day.


So Todd, what are the chances we can get the open wheelers inbetween the "ITA/7/C" & "ITS/B" run groups? I think each would appreciate getting to watch the others run group. I know I would!

[TAC]

I thought I'd float this onto the next page.

Here's the latest update on classes and race groups.

First of all there will be a PDX on Friday August 8th that will have test groups included.

Second The weekend format will stay the same. Three races , Overall championship, individual medals for the afternoon races.

After a long and lively discussion Thursday night the committee has decided to keep 6 race groups. Each race group will receive 2 hrs. of track time over the weekend. This is a reduction of 15 minutes per day for each group. The race groups are as follows.

ITA, IT7, ITC
ITS, ITB
ITE, ITR, TCC
SM, SSM
SRF
CFF,FF, CFC, FC

I will be happy to answer any questions in regards to the committee meeting and decisions by PM. For now the big question I have for all of you is how you prefer that I break up your track time.

Saturday
Qualifying...30 minutes,.............or 25 minutes,.............or 20 minutes.............or. 15 minutes
Race..........30 minutes/17 laps or 35 minutes/ 20 laps or 40 minutes/22 laps or 45 minutes/ 25 laps.

Sunday
Qualifying race 30 minutes/ 17 laps...... or 25 minutes/ 14 laps.....or 20 minutes 12 laps
Race ...............30 minutes. 17 laps...... or 35 minutes/ 20 laps.... .or 40 minutes 22 laps



Best Regards,

Todd Cholmondeley
Cincinnati Race Chairman

[tom91ita]

alex, i'll take minimum qualifying and maximum racing for two hours please.

Todd,

Thanks for the update. 2 hours is still good. but if we are giving up some time, i would rather give up qualifying time.

What Kevin said is fine but rather than pick one, i'll just go with the concept that please go to mimimum qualifying and maximum race time for me.

and please, please, please, what Kev said with regards to the run groups (i think what you have is just the list of groups and was not necessarily meant to be the run order?), please space them so that we can watch the other groups.

the ability to watch the ITA race means more to me than which split i get between the qualifying/racing times. it will be that good.

and i would like to think that the ITS/ITB show will be good as well.

thanks again for all your efforts and that of the others in your region!

tom

[TAC]

My vote is for the 20 minute & 40 minute combination, each day.
So Todd, what are the chances we can get the open wheelers inbetween the "ITA/7/C" & "ITS/B" run groups? I think each would appreciate getting to watch the others run group. I know I would!
[/b]

Shouldn't be a problem.



Tom,

Your welcome and thanks for the support.

In a nutshell it came down to " How do we preserve the ITR, ITE, TCC race group as it stands"? The best solution was to add the 6th race group and give ITR and ITE a chance to expand. Lets hope big Dan Jones can persuade some ITR's this year and we can get the word out to the ITE's! Plus the region will be working hard to accomplish the task also.




Todd

[924Guy]

those are very very *cute*, Andy. They match your cute race car....

Ok, A beer the next time I see you to the first person who can ID the yellow or red car, and it's engine. Double if you can name the designer and year introduced.
[/b]

Mine.

Meyers Manx dune buggy, VW aircooled power, Bruce Manx, from '64.

OK, back on topic - ++1 on putting a group between the ITA, IT7, ITC and ITS, ITB groups!!! Definitely wanna see the ITA battle!!

As for track time split... no, we probably don't need a full 30 minute session to qual, but 15 minutes at Mid-O sounds pretty darn short! I'd prefer one of the middle two options, 20-25 minutes. For Sunday, definitely bias towards the latter two options; while it really helped me last year, the qualifying race shouldn't be as long as the main event, now, should it?

[R2 Racing]

As for track time split... no, we probably don't need a full 30 minute session to qual, but 15 minutes at Mid-O sounds pretty darn short! I'd prefer one of the middle two options, 20-25 minutes. For Sunday, definitely bias towards the latter two options; while it really helped me last year, the qualifying race shouldn't be as long as the main event, now, should it?
[/b]

I guess I'd be ok if we went with a 25/35 minute split on Saturday and a 20/40 minute split on Sunday. That would give a little more time to the "out of towners" on Saturday morning to get a good lap. You shouldn't need that long though - 3 laps, done. :P Then that would also make Sunday afternoon's race the longest and most ballertastic.

Last year I was lucky enough ( ) to get to watch the Sunday afternoon races from the grandstand and afterwards, I would've been mad if I was in either of those run groups and had to miss watching the other. They were both great races to watch, in every class.

[lateapex911]

Mine.

Meyers Manx dune buggy, VW aircooled power, Bruce Manx, from '64.

[/b]

Correctomundo, sorta!

That is the car, or at least it's an artists impression of the car. The Manx was pretty brilliant actually, and had a lot of copiers. However, you flubbed on the designer. Bruce Meyers designed and built it, but was unable to patent it. The "Manx" was the model name. interestingly, he has introduced a 4 seat version recently called the "Manxster", i think.

So I owe you a beer. However, I will add a beer to the pot to the person that can tell me what it's most famous competition finish was. (And I'll give you a hint, it wasn't anything from the "Scooby Doo" series.)

A third beer to anyone who can identify the true identity of the voice behind Andy's lunchbox.

[Gregg]

A third beer to anyone who can identify the true identity of the voice behind Andy's lunchbox.
[/b]

Gonna go out on a limb and say Mel Blanc.

But back on topic, I currently have five MARRS ITA drivers interested, two of which (me, ajn) have posted here already.

[lateapex911]

Mel Blanc it was. i am out two beers, LOL.

Expecting you all to come to Ohio for payment!

[jlucas]

and we can get the word out to the ITE's!
[/b]

Todd,
Speaking of ITE, what is the ITE ruleset for our region? I know every region is different.

Thanks,
Jeremy

[TAC]

Jeremy,

You are correct. The 2007 rules for ITE in Great Lakes Division are:

A. Cars prepared for any past or current recognized showroom stock based amateur or professional racing series, not eligible for any current SCCA regional class.

B. Drivers must have the rule book and be able to prove compliance to the series rules the cars is prepared to.

C. All cars must run DOT approved tires

D. Cars must meet minimum safety requirements defined in the GCR and ITCS for Improved Touring.

All cars must have an SCCA logbook and Drivers must have an SCCA or other competition license listed in the GCR. the unwritten rule.

Now I know that BP ( World Challenge GT based) and DP ( World Challenge Touring Car based) are "National Classes" but I think it really comes down to the Chief stewards decision if things are in question.

Series cars that are eligible are:

NASA
BMWCCA
IMSA Firehawk
PCA
renault Cup
VW Rabbbit/Golf Gold Cup
Ferrari Challenge
Corvette Challenge
Viper Racing League

ones I gotta check on:

American V-8 Supercar Series
PBOC
MAZDA MX-5 challenge

And I'm sure there are a bazillion more I don't know about.

Todd

[jlucas]

Ok then, I should be able to bring something ITE if the ITA car is no longer around by then.

Edit: Looks like it should be ITA!

[gran racing]

most famous competition finish was.[/b]

Well then Jake, you're results are skewed and biased - Scooby Doo was by FAR the most popular finish. You even thought of it by mentioning it in your post.

[TimM ITB]

Todd;

my votes, FWIW!!

20 minutes on the qualifying side - 40 minutes on the racing side both on Saturday and Sunday. PLUS, a short amount of time on Sunday morning for a hardship checkout.

Please..........ABSOLUTELY put serious effort into scheduling the run groups so that the IT contingent can get to watch and support each other - it really is important to us as this crazy IT community DOES support one another..............as well as being the first to trash each other!!

Is it August yet?? Yikes!

thanks for listening

Tim M

[TAC]

But back on topic, I currently have five MARRS ITA drivers interested, two of which (me, ajn) have posted here already.
[/b]

Gregg,

Thanks for all the support.


Tim,

ITB, ITS....(give them the 8 am wakeup call this year)

SRF

ITA, IT7,ITC

SM, SSM

ITE, ITR, TCC (AS is a maybe)

CFF, FF, CFC, FC



Todd

[Andy Bettencourt]

ITB, ITS....(give them the 8 am wakeup call this year)

SRF

ITA, IT7,ITC

SM, SSM

ITE, ITR, TCC (AS is a maybe)

CFF, FF, CFC, FC



Todd [/b]

How about you swap the open wheelers and the Miata group? That way all the production-based cars can see each other...

[Jeremy Billiel]

Ok then, I should be able to bring something ITE if the ITA car is no longer around by then.
[/b]

We can have a battle of the Jeremy's!

Greg will run my car in ITS and I will run ITE

[dominojd]

Gregg,

Thanks for all the support.
Tim,

ITB, ITS....(give them the 8 am wakeup call this year)

SRF

ITA, IT7,ITC

SM, SSM

ITE, ITR, TCC (AS is a maybe)

CFF, FF, CFC, FC
Todd
[/b]

All these activities will be taking place on the pro course right?

[924Guy]

However, you flubbed on the designer. Bruce Meyers designed and built it...
[/b]

so true... 'swhat I get for banging away on the keyboard too early in the AM, without enough coffee...

See you at the Fest!

[dominojd]

We can have a battle of the Jeremy's!

I will run ITE
[/b]

We know which Jeremy will win that one. :P
You make it to easy.