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    We still have I's to cross and T's to dot, but Atlanta Region has agreed in principal to open the 2008 ECS with a Five-Hour event at Road Atlanta on Sunday, Feb 24. The event will closely mirror the rules for the "Longest Day" at Nelson Ledges, including classes (pretty much anything that runs a DOT tire) that will be invited to participate. I have been in close conversation with Roland Hahn and we believe we can make this thing work.

    Lots of details to be worked out, but we're thinking a 90-minute qualifying session Sunday morning, then start the race at 12:45 PM and finish in the dusk (in February) at 5:45. Obviously all Enduro cars will be eligible to enter the SARRC race(s) on Saturday as well as the track-sanctioned Test Day on Friday.

    I'll certainly have more details before Christmas (since we need to get the sanction request in by Jan 1), but I wanted y'all to know for sure so you can put it on your calendars:

    Feb 24 - 5-Hour "Petit Petit" at Road Atlanta
    Jun 13-14 - 12-Hour at Summit Point
    Aug 22-24 - 24-Hour "Longest Day" at Nelson Ledges
    Oct 31-Nov 1 - 13-Hour ("Charge of the Headlight Brigade") at VIR
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    Oh, well - it's bittersweet, having to give up the NASA 3 hour but if it's part of the ECS, then we're committed. I still think it's going to cost both organizations entries, to the benefit of neither but I understand how schedules work...

    K

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    Awesome news!

    Of course, I won't have a car at that point...

    So it is official, I am either crewing for Dr. K or helping Butch. Butch, you need help? I've never put on a race before, but I'm just stupid enough to volunteer to help.
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    Butch ...

    Does this mean the Pro-IT is getting axed for that weekend?


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    SPiFF - No Pro-IT that weekend; just not enough time in the day. We WILL be running double Pro-ITs at both the National weekends, plus a single Pro-IT in July and a double-points Pro-IT at Barber to finish the season. Add those to the one at the ARRC by GRM and you have seven races in the 2007 series.

    Bowie - I sure I can think of something that will utilize your talents! Maybe drive the Honey-Dipper truck or something...
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    ... Maybe drive the Honey-Dipper truck or something...[/b]
    Hey, y'all watch this!

    Where the Dukes of Hazzard meets Dirty Jobs

    K

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    I hate you guys.
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    Of course, I won't have a car at that point...


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    O come on. You can't have your car built by the end of Feb.? That's like 3 months away
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    BTW, is the official name of this thing going to be the Kumho Petite Petite? Will the logo on the Tshirts also be petite?


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    Butch,
    Can you guys split the SM run group and the ITA run group by at least couple of races on Saturday? That lets us bring one car share it on Saturday and share it again for the enduro. We are trying to come to RAtlanta three times in 08 and the less weight we tow the better. My next request is .....can you do something about the price of diesel??????

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    Mac - Yes, I will split SM and ITA so you guys can both race on Saturday. I probably wouldn't have normally, but that's why we have these little discussions, isn't it?

    I wish reducing the price of diesel was that easy...

    The name of the event is still under discussion. I'm sure Road Atlanta (or Don Panoz) is protective of the "Petit" name, plus there may be restrictions from ALMS and/or the ACO. I generally try to steer clear of potential political obstacles, but I'm reminded of something Gen. Schwartzkoff (sp?) said:

    "Going to war without the French is like going deer hunting without your accordian."
    Butch Kummer
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    Call it the Tiny LeMans then. I mean....afterall....


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    Call it the Tiny LeMans then. I mean....afterall....
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    If we're truly doing away with any potential alignment with the ALMS race and French references, then may I suggest the "Tiny Lamonz"?
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    Actually, in french we could try des 5 Heures du Mans Petit.


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    How about calling it a 5 hr sprint race, which it will be.


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    You guys. 500 mile races are endurance races. They are usually around 3 hours long. for club racers a 3 hour race is long. Yet this 5 hour race leaves you totally unsatisfied. amazing.

    Thats ok. I will happily take the trophy home.


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    That's just how it is.

    The reason that Pablo is such a good enduro tool is that (with Conover's preparation) we can run the same kind of lap times we do at a 20 minute regional all day. And that's what it takes to win many classes, because there's always someone willing to do it - and if they don't break, they win. Of course, we have an idea about parts lifing with the Golf, so we replace stuff before it busts. I throw away a lot of parts that look fine...

    The time when we could go out and stroke a car for 12 hours and win are long gone.

    K

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    The time when we could go out and stroke a car for 12 hours and win are long gone.

    K
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    Sad but true. It even happens now on 24 hour events!

    FYI this 5 hour will be a double points event for the ECS!!

    Roland

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    Any additional details re: schedule confirmation, etc.? I'm pretty shocked at how quickly this is coming up, when I look at my work travel calendar and so on...

    K

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    I know. Its almost time to order tires for that race.


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