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    Ok guys, time for some input. I will be doing the schedule for the CMP National Feb. 16/17 and want to get as many of you as possible to run the Carolina Pro Cup. Would you be more likely to race if we have all your sessions on Saturday so it is a one day affair or move the race into Sunday. Please give your opinion if you actually plan to run the race.
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    Ok guys, time for some input. I will be doing the schedule for the CMP National Feb. 16/17 and want to get as many of you as possible to run the Carolina Pro Cup. Would you be more likely to race if we have all your sessions on Saturday so it is a one day affair


    Yes to the above...............

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    We could not do a two day- get it all in Saturday and I think two more cars can make it (SSC and SM).
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    Steve...(Lobbying hard here). Two cars ready to race. Asking for a ticket to ride? I would favor the one day as we would not run the national race.

    Thanx for your consideration Steve. We want to race your series.

    Rob Bodle
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    Rob. Go to the CCPS website and contact Estus White about car classing. I can only host the race by their rules. We would like to have you.

    Have you run CMP and what lap times do your cars turn there. Fast S time is 1:51-1:52.
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    Rob. Go to the CCPS website and contact Estus White about car classing. I can only host the race by their rules. We would like to have you.

    Have you run CMP and what lap times do your cars turn there. Fast S time is 1:51-1:52. [/b]


    Steve or anyone,

    Can anyone tell me why there is a manditory 2 minute pit stop in a 45 min race in the ccps?

    Thanks


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    Steve or anyone,

    Can anyone tell me why there is a manditory 2 minute pit stop in a 45 min race in the ccps?

    Thanks
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    Long story short Dan, it makes it possible for 2 drivers to share the car without it costing them the race. Run it yourself or split it. Just let me know if you need that BMW worn out for half a race. :026: I'm slow there but I could try.

    I will see what we can do for you Rob. I think your cars would fit fine at CMP.
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    Long story short Dan, it makes it possible for 2 drivers to share the car without it costing them the race. Run it yourself or split it. Just let me know if you need that BMW worn out for half a race. :026: I'm slow there but I could try.
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    Thanks for the explaniation Steve but I can't understand why anyone would need or want another driver for a 45 minute race. I could understand if the race was 3 hrs or longer but 45 mn. this is still a short race IMO.




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    Thanks for the explaniation Steve but I can't understand why anyone would need or want another driver for a 45 minute race. I could understand if the race was 3 hrs or longer but 45 mn. this is still a short race IMO.
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    My brother and I co-drive CCPS races regularly. It allows us to run one race and take home two "finishes" for renewing our licenses.

    Oh, and we'd be more likely to run if it was all on Saturday. Honestly, though, mid-Feb might be tough for me to make.
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    Rob. Go to the CCPS website and contact Estus White about car classing. I can only host the race by their rules. We would like to have you.

    Have you run CMP and what lap times do your cars turn there. Fast S time is 1:51-1:52.
    [/b]
    I have spoken with CCPS officials at VIR in October and have emailed everyone with an email address on the website. I am told that they will discuss our request at the year end meeting. I was not rejected out of hand as ECR has done and so, I am hopeful.

    Any word from you to them would be helpful.

    As to CMP, we have no laps there. We passed on the track last season out of concern over brake and tire wear. The new configuration is supposed to ease both and allow more time for brake cooling. We plan on running both cars in the February NASA 3 hour enduro to get some laps there and see how the cars hold up to the new CMP layout.

    Right now we are fast where we have experience and slow where we do not. 1:39 to 1:42 at Road Atlanta(lots of laps). 2:17 to 2:20 at VIR Full course(few laps).


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    Ron and I have been thinking about making this race. Being done on Saturday would make it way more attractive. That'd be two S cars that DO NOT run 1:51-52........and I only know of one that does......lol......
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    We plan to attend and would greatly appreciate a Saturday race.
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    We were planning to go, and Righty still might, but I'll be winging my way to a week's vacation in sunny Plovdiv, Bulgaria.
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    I'll be there representing ITC with my 91 Civic, time to play on the 'New' CMP!!! Track updates are looking sweet, can't wait! What are the rules for using the skidpad?

    Come on ITC racers, where are you??? CMP is a Killer track for us!!! Load up the track everyone, great track time for the $$$! Get that first 2008 event done and get rid of the winter cobwebs!!! Bonus is we get to watch the national guys!

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    So far, here's the weather forecast for Saturday the 16th.... Let's hope this holds up!


    SunnyHigh
    58°F

    Precip
    10%

    Also, the entry list for the CCPS is healthy. 7 drivers in IT7, 1 each in ITA and B, 3 in ITC, 9 in ITS (plus Thompson if he comes), 14 SM, and 4 Spec racers. There's still room for more!! Come on out and play.
    Steve Parrish
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    Due to the cancellation of the race in Atlanta we are going to waive late fees for anyone who wants to enter at CMP. You will only have to pay extra if you wait to enter at the track. DLB will be open until Tuesday at best. If you plan to run please get registered now. Looks like a big CCPS group.:026:
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    Long story short Dan, it makes it possible for 2 drivers to share the car without it costing them the race. Run it yourself or split it. Just let me know if you need that BMW worn out for half a race. :026: I'm slow there but I could try.

    I will see what we can do for you Rob. I think your cars would fit fine at CMP.
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    I just looked at some American Iron lap times from last season. Our cars fall into that class as well. They were running times mostly between 53 and 55 at CMP. Loose in. I saw a 51 on one sunday race and only one guy in the 51s.

    I doubt I would be anywhere near that starting off.


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    I just looked at some American Iron lap times from last season. Our cars fall into that class as well. They were running times mostly between 53 and 55 at CMP. Loose in. I saw a 51 on one sunday race and only one guy in the 51s.

    I doubt I would be anywhere near that starting off.
    [/b]

    FYI - American Iron Lap Record at CMP is 1:48.8 (5/1/2005 - A. Kirby - Mustang)

    Last AI race I saw there, I believe this was 2003, the top three were in the 49s.
    Adam in Charlotte
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    FYI - American Iron Lap Record at CMP is 1:48.8 (5/1/2005 - A. Kirby - Mustang)

    Last AI race I saw there, I believe this was 2003, the top three were in the 49s.
    [/b]

    LR taken from http://www.nasaracing.net/NASA%20LAP%20REC..._FINAL_2007.xls

    They typically ran within a tenth or two of the Honda Challenge H1 fast laps. The H1 LR at CMP is a 1:48.926.

    Adam in Charlotte
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    I co-drive with Captain Who. I'd very much like to take care of everything on Saturday. I'll try to get us there. Can't wait to see the new layout. Love the CCPS, too. As Captain Who said, it allows us broke folks the chance to race more easily.

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