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  1. #21
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    David, I'm just high on life man.

    And what is that hard rock sh#t??? THIS is what Sails are all about:

    It's not far down to paradise
    At least it's not for me
    And if the wind is right you can sail away
    And find tranquility
    The canvas can do miracles
    Just you wait and see
    Believe me

    It's not far to never never land
    No reason to pretend
    And if the wind is right you can find the joy
    Of innocence again
    The canvas can do miracles
    Just you wait and see
    Believe me


    Sailing
    Takes me away
    To where I've always heard it could be
    Just a dream and the wind to carry me
    And soon I will be free


    Fantasy
    It gets the best of me
    When I'm sailing
    All caught up in the reverie
    Every word is a symphony
    Won't you believe me


    It's not far back to sanity
    At least it's not for me
    And when the wind is right you can sail away
    And find serenity
    The canvas can do miracles
    Just you wait and see
    Believe me


    Whoa......you guys are right...what was I drinking?
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    Reading this thread I can't help but be reminded of that great line from the opening of "Mythbusters"...

    I reject your reality and substitute my own...

    Earl R.
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    David, I'm just high on life man.

    And what is that hard rock sh#t??? THIS is what Sails are all about:

    It's not far down to paradise
    At least it's not for me
    And if the wind is right you can sail away
    And find tranquility
    The canvas can do miracles
    Just you wait and see
    Believe me

    It's not far to never never land
    No reason to pretend
    And if the wind is right you can find the joy
    Of innocence again
    The canvas can do miracles
    Just you wait and see
    Believe me
    Sailing
    Takes me away
    To where I've always heard it could be
    Just a dream and the wind to carry me
    And soon I will be free
    Fantasy
    It gets the best of me
    When I'm sailing
    All caught up in the reverie
    Every word is a symphony
    Won't you believe me
    It's not far back to sanity
    At least it's not for me
    And when the wind is right you can sail away
    And find serenity
    The canvas can do miracles
    Just you wait and see
    Believe me
    Whoa......you guys are right...what was I drinking?
    [/b]

    As I read this I thought, "Man I've lost all respect for Jeff knowing that he knows these lyrics". Then I realized, "dude, you just confirmed that the lyrics are correct?" Now I have no respect for myself.

    Oh, and I've heard that Mr. Bigbucks has been developing and using clear sails for years.
    Steve Beckley
    Walkersville MD
    MARRS #87 ITB MR2

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    David, I'm just high on life man.

    .........
    And if the wind is right you can find the joy
    ........
    Whoa......you guys are right...what was I drinking?
    [/b]

    There Jeff goes breaking wind again....................
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    Aren't sails only legal in IT"S"? - ba da bing
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    I'm telling you man, those Reamerworld 527ezs and the Snotsource SQ9s* have been using invisible sails to keep the rest of us down for years, man. I'll telling ya! I'm telling ya!

    *No offense to James Clay, Sylvain Tremblay et all and any resemblance to IT dominating speed shops is purely coincidental.
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    This is BS! Now only those who can afford sails will be competitive forcing the rest of us to pony up. I propose we set up a sail comp review board who will decide on a spec sail.



    Tom Sprecher

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    Sorry Tom but those of us that have a factory sail deal would be terribly hurt by a spec sail rule. Allowing competition from sail suppliers will help cost from rising.
    dick patullo
    ner scca IT7 Rx7

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    Ah, but Dick, you must be one of the privileged few getting those free sails from the Slick Rick's Sailward-Ho shop, the ones that are a day or two faster on a round the world voyage. If you were not so privileged, you might be stuck with us slow guys taking well over 80 days to go from New York to, uh, well I guess New York.

    IT Sail. Bring it boys.
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    Since we are taling about opening up the sail rule, we are going to have to revisit the allowed modifications to the keel to handle this new power that we will be applying.

    And rather than gun mounts we should embrace new technology and look at missle launchers to keep them farther away. That repealing boarders stuff is dangerous.

    Aaaarrrrrgh matey

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    And what is w/ this 6" wide sail rule for B and C sailors? uh, i mean drivers. The boats, err i mean cars, are correctly differentiated based on sail power-to-weight and tack (and jive) speed. I have yet to find a suitable 6" sail, but 7" sails are still plentiful at reasonable prices. And this is not about a competitive advantage. The 6" sails actually can give a sailor, err driver, an aero advantage in many situations, and tack (jive), err turn, faster than the 7" sails.


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    The CRSLAB (Club Racing Sail Loft Advisory Board) has again "stepped on their dangly bits". They've allowed for addition of any sail, but have neglected to allow for appropriate rigging. What good is a spinnaker without a pole ? Will there be a penalty for setting a sail wrong (the old "pointy end up" problem) ??? What good is a genoa without the salami ???

    I'm moving to NASA. At least they can lauch a rocket every now and then.

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    John the rigging is implied just like when it says I can substitute any steering wheel being able to weld it on is acceptable.
    dick patullo
    ner scca IT7 Rx7

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    Since we are taling about opening up the sail rule, we are going to have to revisit the allowed modifications to the keel to handle this new power that we will be applying.

    ...
    Aaaarrrrrgh matey
    [/b]
    Are you implying that centerboards get subtractors and keels get adders when pluging them into the 'process'?

    What about winged keels, or canting keels?
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    You guys remember the pictures of Jeff's car in chest deep water driver's left of turn 1 at VIR a few years ago??? Maybe he is serious about this request....
    Scott Gallimore
    worker, nat comp license, IT-7 driver,
    North Carolina Region Board of Directors, Member at Large

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    Are you implying that centerboards get subtractors and keels get adders when pluging them into the 'process'?

    What about winged keels, or canting keels?
    [/b]
    Oh for heaven's sake! This thread is about sails, not keels! Why does everyone always try to change the subject away from the #1 priority, which as we all know, is fixing the dumbest rule ever, the IT sail rule?

    Josh Sirota
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    Now that is funny. Maybe that was the subconscious basis for this lark and frolic!

    Guys, Scott is actually 100% accurate. My VERY FIRST RACE weekend, the Dan River at VIR was up so high that a dude in a pontoon boat was able to sail? float? to wihtin a 100 yards or so of turn 1. About 30-40 feet off of turn 1, the water was about 3-4 feet deep. I splashed, TWICE, that weekend. Could have used a sail, or a trolling motor.

    Is the trolling motor legal?

    You guys remember the pictures of Jeff's car in chest deep water driver's left of turn 1 at VIR a few years ago??? Maybe he is serious about this request....
    [/b]
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    Is the trolling motor legal?
    [/b]
    There you go. We haven't even figured out what to do with sails yet and already somebody wants a trolling motor. Next thing you know it'll be "Are quad 200 hp outboard motors legal?"

    David
    ITA 240SX #17
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    My trolling motor is spherical and fits in my tailpipe with a tack weld. It is therefore, an exhaust system. It is free.
    NC Region
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    holy crap, you guys are killing me! i spent 10+years on the tech committee for an international spec sailboat racing class. this thread is giving me flashbacks to real "discussions" about sails...and keels, and rudders...

    why did i volunteer for the ITAC again?

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