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    I was just thinking about our upcoming event at Pocono and I remember hearing some discussion about strategically locating pieces of racer tape on the front of a car to reduce drag. What is the rule for taping the front (sides) of a car?

    I want to see what 150mph feels like.....

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    I don't think that's legal, because it doesn't say you can. You explicitly cannot in Prepared and Touring, but there's no mention in the IT rules.

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    Josh,

    9.1.4.7, I believe, allows for grill taping for prepared... However; BMW's don't have the huge over the bumper grills that taping covers up.

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    This is an interesting question. I've often wondered this when I see people taping their hood pins as well.
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    With respect to my fellow Z3'ers. Rob I would definitely tape the brake ducts. No where in the GCR does it say that brake ducts are required so therefore taping them should be moot. I would also tape the hood pins down.

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    Why have hood pins then if you're going to tape them down? I'm actually curious and am not trying to be a complete jerk. LOL
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    Great question, I had one come up at the runoffs last year and it freaked me out. I could see the hood dancing up and down and I thought I was going to get a lap full of glass (again). This year we went back to the stock hood latches with the safety...problem solved.

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    I don't think it's a stretch to say that the only thing you can legally tape are the lights.

    Rob B.,

    If the brake duct holes already existed before you put the ducts in, that doesn't mean you can then cover them. So, if you 'fill' your holes with plugged brake ducts, you are really torturing the rule.



    Those look like stock holes to me...I think Rob knows the answer to this.
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    Race tape is great at covering up rather small bolt sized chunks of your windshield missing too. I have a feeling I need to replace that this year.
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    Yea, taping is a no no. But mirrors are free, and I'd read the section about window vents too.
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    Hmmmm... Duct tape air dam anyone?
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    Yea, taping is a no no. But mirrors are free, and I'd read the section about window vents too.
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    Great idea Jake, use racer tape to tape mirrors in the brake ducts, problem solved :P

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    Why have hood pins then if you're going to tape them down? I'm actually curious and am not trying to be a complete jerk. LOL
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    I guess I'm way off. I thought they were taping the hood pins for better aerodynamics!!
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    Oh yea, forgot about them being in an already existing hole. OOppps

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    I thought they were taping the hood pins for better aerodynamics!! [/b]
    Can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not. That is what I thought, but that goes against what is legal from what I understand. If one were to argue it is legal, could you tape the gap between the fenders and hood?

    Back to my original question, if it is for aero then why bother put them on the car?

    Silly question - what is the purpose of hood pins? They are for ease of getting to the engine in the paddock and if positioned right, in an on-track situation, no? I've seen some of the taping jobs on the hood pins and they would not be very easy to take off in an emergency situation. I suppose it would be easier than trying to locate the release inside the car, but could make arguments otherwise since the driver would have access to that.
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    So, I have a small nylon strap that is needed to raise my hood after I pull off the hood pins. Am I reading this right that it's a no-no to put a small piece of tape on the strap (which is red, against a silver background) so the corner crews don't think I have something loose and black flag me?
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    Bill,

    I think the point here is that people don't want competitors using tape to increase the aerodynamics of their cars. Is taping of hood pins legal? Who knows - who cares. HP's are there as safety equipment and taping them AT BEST gets you back to square one. Would I? No, but nobody really cares.

    Now taping seams and plugging holes are a seperate issue. Driscoll knows the rules, he is just stirring the pot.
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    I'm with Andy regarding taping the hood pins and other areas. When people start taping seems, that's different. Nevertheless, it made me curious why people bother to install hood pins if they are to later tape them up for aero reaons.
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    Can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not. [/b]
    Nope, no sarcasm!
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    My brother tapes his hoodpins because they have come loose before in him. I do not tape my hood pins as they do not come loose, and they are the more expensive ones that are in the tracks and can not come out/off. I don't think he has gained an erodynamic advantage by having them taped...

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