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    At this point, I'm really most interested in racing with larger run groups.
    I am 99% certain that I will run the Jim Stark...but am kinda thinking that the VIR race would be better...

    Doesnt this VIR event get a huge turnout of IT cars?
    I have heard that perhaps the fields will not be so large this year....

    Anyone know anything about this?

    Will the IT turnout at VIR be that much larger, traditionally, then the Jim Stark?
    Will there be a sea of ITB cars on the grid?
    "Entropy sucks"

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    Both usually get very large turnouts. Jim Stark draws a lot of guys from Florida.

    CHeck in the sign in page - almost 100 cars registered already, and I think 6 ITB cars already.

    SARRC/MARRS is usually larege just because it draws all the DC guys out of their lair at Summit. However, it was smaller last yera than usual because people were frustrated with the three day format. This has been changed, now two days. Hopefully this will bring back the 400+ car counts we used to get. I had a 60 car s/A/7 run group one time at SARRC/MARRS.
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    OK, Jeff, where (link) is the sign up list? Thanks, Chuck
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    www.dlbracing.com

    Bucanneer finally has online registration!

    Chuck, good group of A cars already too. 8 or 9 I think.

    9 Neil Radloff Red 1996 Mazda Miata
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    18 John Kish red/black/gray 1989 NISSAN 240SX
    57 Neal Norton yellow 1991 mazda miata
    58 Briar Johnson Black 1996 Nissan 200SX
    75 Willie Phee Silver/Blue 98 1998 Acura Integra
    Sponsored by: Acura Carland, PACT, AYES, Mobil 1, Studio 540, Sparco, WRPMotorsports
    92 Darryl Pritchett White 1995 Dodge Neon
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    02 Steven Lawrence green 1994 mazada miata
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    06 Thomas Lyman Blue 1992 Acura Integra
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    09 Peter Brunton Red 1996 Mazda Miata


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    4 Jim Wray Yellow 1984 VW Rabbit
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    18 Shane Lovely Black 1998 Honda Civic DX
    22 Mike Mccormick White 1989 VW Golf
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    52 Lette O'sheill White 1986 Honda CRX Si
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    44 Jeff Young Green 1980 Triumph TR8
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    59 Cliff Ira Grn/Wht 1995 Acura Integra GSR
    61 Dave Raymon Black/yellow 1999 Honda Civic
    Sponsored by: Rejman Corp.
    77 Mike Lacombe YELLOW 1989 MAZDA RX-7
    08 David Plott yellow 1973 Datsun 240Z
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    www.dlbracing.com

    Bucanneer finally has online registration!
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    Damn that is awesome. I hope NC follows suit on that, it works seemlessly.

    R

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    I'd like to run this, but isn't this Mother's Day weekend?
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    Fo shizzle.
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    As said by mr. Yip "For mothers day I give the greatest present....I leave town"

    Being unmarried and partents living a few states away, it doesn't matter if I go.
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    If I go:

    my three kids: "Mommy, why isn't Daddy here for Mother's Day?"

    Mommy: "Get used to it kids, you are never going to see him again"





    I'll miss this race because I like sleeping in a warm bed as opposed to the cold concrete garage floor....

    Those of you that get to go, I hope you have a great time
    Eddie
    ex RX3 and GTI driver
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    "I have heard that any landing you can walk away from is a 'good' landing. I bet this applies to flying airplanes as well." - E.J.

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    woohoo, 8 ITB cars!
    "Entropy sucks"

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    www.dlbracing.com

    Bucanneer finally has online registration!

    Chuck, good group of A cars already too. 8 or 9 I think.

    9 Neil Radloff Red 1996 Mazda Miata
    Sponsored by: Jeld-wen windows and Doors
    18 John Kish red/black/gray 1989 NISSAN 240SX
    57 Neal Norton yellow 1991 mazda miata
    58 Briar Johnson Black 1996 Nissan 200SX
    75 Willie Phee Silver/Blue 98 1998 Acura Integra
    Sponsored by: Acura Carland, PACT, AYES, Mobil 1, Studio 540, Sparco, WRPMotorsports
    92 Darryl Pritchett White 1995 Dodge Neon
    Sponsored by: Matco Tools
    02 Steven Lawrence green 1994 mazada miata
    Sponsored by: iscr
    06 Thomas Lyman Blue 1992 Acura Integra
    Sponsored by: HomeLife Communities
    09 Peter Brunton Red 1996 Mazda Miata
    ITB 6 drivers Class List
    2 Paul Mccormick White 1986 VW Golf
    Sponsored by: Cato Steel
    4 Jim Wray Yellow 1984 VW Rabbit
    Sponsored by: Wrabbit Wraycing
    18 Shane Lovely Black 1998 Honda Civic DX
    22 Mike Mccormick White 1989 VW Golf
    Sponsored by: Cato Steel
    52 Lette O'sheill White 1986 Honda CRX Si
    70 Ralph Thorne Iii White 1977 BMW 320i
    ITC 3 drivers Class List
    38 Vesa Silegren Red 1987 Honda CRX
    Sponsored by: www.svtek.com
    43 Gary Jr Bennett Red 1991 Honda Civic HB
    Sponsored by: Diamond Home Builders, LLC
    04 Steve Kenny yellow/white 1980 honda civic
    ITE 1 driver Class List
    05 Rob Bodle White 1995 Ford Cobra R
    Sponsored by: Mustang Enthusiast/Pepsi/Car Guys Photo
    ITS 6 drivers Class List
    42 Kyle Vensel Red 1987 Mazda RX-7
    44 Jeff Young Green 1980 Triumph TR8
    Sponsored by: Moore & Van Allen PLLC
    59 Cliff Ira Grn/Wht 1995 Acura Integra GSR
    61 Dave Raymon Black/yellow 1999 Honda Civic
    Sponsored by: Rejman Corp.
    77 Mike Lacombe YELLOW 1989 MAZDA RX-7
    08 David Plott yellow 1973 Datsun 240Z
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    woohoo, 8 ITB cars!
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    Should be at least one more if I can work out the move/house sale/house purchase/new job thing. Feeling confident because I REALLY want to do that race.

    K

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    Hope you make it.
    Would be great to finally meet ya, and put a face with your posts on here....

    I raced that track once about 8 yrs ago on a motorcycle, so it will be kinda like learning a new track. I'm hoping I will do well there as supposedly it is not a difficult track to learn...and it is not so much a HP track...

    And there arent any of those mondo hp volvo's registered :P

    Speaking of tracks and difficulty learning them...

    I went to Road Atlanta for the first time at the ARRC test day, and thought it really wasnt all that difficult of a track (although I know I still have time there).
    Lowes is easy...cmp isnt really that difficult (turn 8 is the toughest, in my opinion)...and I hear roebling isnt so bad.
    Moroso is easy...as is homestead...

    In the southeast, I have found VIR to be the most difficult by far....That damn turn after the esses is downright scary. Hogspen is difficult....and turn, I think, turn 3? (kinda fast left turn) is tough...
    Of all the tracks in the SE, VIR is the only one that gives me goosebumps
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    What should I think that you cite my two favorite corners at VIR as problem area?

    T3 "NASCAR" is faster than it looks and I think a lot of people over-brake for it. "South Bend" is that kink following the climbing esses and a lot of time can be gained between there and Oak Tree, if you carry maximum speed through there. VERY cool corners.

    The BEST one at VIR however is the right after the pits on the Patriot course - the little thing inside the Full Course. Wicked fast entry (for the space available), decreasing radius, into a hole. Yummy.

    My personal jinx is T1/T2 on the Full Course (or T1 at Summit, et al). I REALLY dislike those long medium-speed sweepers, and I KNOW that I don't use them at all well...

    K

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    What should I think that you cite my two favorite corners at VIR as problem area?

    T3 "NASCAR" is faster than it looks and I think a lot of people over-brake for it. "South Bend" is that kink following the climbing esses and a lot of time can be gained between there and Oak Tree, if you carry maximum speed through there. VERY cool corners.

    The BEST one at VIR however is the right after the pits on the Patriot course - the little thing inside the Full Course. Wicked fast entry (for the space available), decreasing radius, into a hole. Yummy.

    My personal jinx is T1/T2 on the Full Course (or T1 at Summit, et al). I REALLY dislike those long medium-speed sweepers, and I KNOW that I don't use them at all well...

    K
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    at the moment, i'm planning on the VIR event. it is by far my favorite weekend, the MARRS crowd adds to our ITC contingent, making for a fun weekend.

    VIR is a wonderfull track... the corners that gives everyone troubles, are the ones that I enjoy the most. I agree with Kirk... proper entry into 3 sets up 4 and the flat esses, nicely. Southbend is the corner that seems to seperate drivers with ability from those who just happen to have slightly more powerfull cars. Hogpen has caused me trouble from ime to time.

    Kirk, are you talking about the turn in fo the North Course cut through (after the bridge)? That is a blast! I love the turn in compresion, let the wheel unwrap while the car is light feeling... another great spot to gain on the competition.

    Hope to see all at this one!
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    We are thinking of commong to the Friday test day at Roebling and if the new mustang goes well my dad might stay the weekend and race. With three daughters all playing soccer there is no way I can run. So add a possible for the ITB list.

    Watch out, Roebling is the track that our car runs well at!
    Ron
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    ...Kirk, are you talking about the turn in fo the North Course cut through (after the bridge)? ...[/b]
    Nope. Same area but it's North Course T8, coming DOWNHILL past the Patriot Pits.



    If you did the Grande Course, you did it going up hill, and it was freakin' awful. Snore. Going clockwise through there, it's a different beast.

    K

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    mattbatson,

    I'll grant you VIR is the most challenging track in SEDIV and I certainly wish it was closer so I could run it more often, but I respectfully submit that if Road Atlanta doesn't give you goosebumps then it's because you're not going fast enough. :P The removal of the Dip back in '96 got rid of the REALLY scary part, but even after 25 years Turn 12, Turn 1 and the Esses still make me hold my breath when I do it correctly.
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    Just a little heads up for the IT ranks. Registration is up for the MARRS/SARRC at VIR. :026:
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    Butch,
    Your prolly right about me not doing it right....
    I have only been there once, it was only a test day, and I didnt have anyone there with me so I dont know what kind of times I was turning...

    I honestly think the finish line turn (is that turn 12?), is pretty easy. Now, keep in mind I'm in an ITB car :P
    You can see the whole corner in front of you... and I did seem to reel in people in this corner...so maybe it just suits me well.

    Turn 1 is definitely fast....and the brake and turn in points for that corner are hard to see (I dont think I have it figured out yet). But, I never seemed to have any problem there either? I honestly dont know why, but neither of those two corners gave me fits.

    Maybe RA just suits me...maybe I'm just slow there and dont realize it...maybe in an ITB car it is just plain easy :P

    Now, if the corner is immediately after a series of flat out in fourth gear esses....and is at the crest of a hill...and is blind...and there is a big drop off the outside of the track out...

    Now THAT is spooky!

    But, then again, I've only been to VIR once

    We are thinking of commong to the Friday test day at Roebling and if the new mustang goes well my dad might stay the weekend and race. With three daughters all playing soccer there is no way I can run. So add a possible for the ITB list.

    Watch out, Roebling is the track that our car runs well at!
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    Great, hope ya make...
    Bring it! I have no idea if I OR my car runs well there...but I'll bring the best I've got!

    I'll keep my foot in it, and it'll either stick or it wont!
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