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[mossaidis]

Civic dork alert!!!

This Civic kind of got both worlds. There were decent arguments on both sides of the "attainable weight" thing. In addition, at the same time we were classing the next-generation car with the very same engine, and THAT car was clearly going to ITA.

Could you clarify which car are you comparing with the 99-00 civic Si? Cause if it's the "next-generation car" the 02-05 Si, it's certainly DOES NOT have the "very same engine" or is it the same car by any means!

99-00 Civic Si had a B-series 1.6-liter B16A2 engine that made 160 hp (120 kW) at 7,600 RPM and 111 ft-lbs of torque at 7,000 RPM.

"02-05 Civic Si adopted the K-series K20A3 engine rated 160 bhp (120 kW) at 6500 rpm and 132 ft·lbf (179 N·m) at 5000 rpm. With a redline of 6,800 rpm, the Si distanced itself from the narrow, high-rpm powerband engine of its predecessor, and as a result saw a 20 percent increase in torque. ... the switch to MacPherson struts from double-wishbone suspension (in the '99-'00 si) resulted in less responsive handling, and a near-150 lb (68 kg) increase in weight to 2,744 lb (1,245 kg) contributed to slower acceleration than the lighter '99-'00 Si.Much of the weight gain is attributed to the chassis' stouter structure when compared to the previous generation hatchback, with the '02 Si boasting an increase in torsional rigidity by 95 percent and a bending rigidity increase of 22 percent..."

That should NOT stop you from putting both cars in ITA and treating them as having 160 hp though...