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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Earp View Post
    1. Term limits.
    2. Committee members MUST be active participants in the racing the committee oversees.
    One more:

    3. Committee members must recuse themselves from voting on an issue that would directly affect the IT class they race in with respect to competition within that class - i.e., mainly car classifications.

    This would do a couple of things, keep the member honest and insure the ITAC is populated evenly from all IT classes so it doesn't get paralyzed on a particular class/vote.

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    Josh - this is what drives me nuts about our current situation. As more and more cars are classes using the new measuring stick, the previously classed cars are going to suffer more and more.

    currently classed cars that were way outside their Process weight and the refusal of the CRB to apply the same measuring stick to both as well as the introduction of the concept of 'on-track performance' and 'like achitechture' to the classification equation.
    This needs to be addressed for all IT classes and a push needs to come from the ITAC, and the BOD hopefully will step in. The good news is that IT is not the only category experiencing issues in how things are being handled by the CRB. Nice, real nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Earp View Post
    One more:

    3. Committee members must recuse themselves from voting on an issue that would directly affect the IT class they race in with respect to competition within that class - i.e., mainly car classifications.

    This would do a couple of things, keep the member honest and insure the ITAC is populated evenly from all IT classes so it doesn't get paralyzed on a particular class/vote.
    You mean both ITAC and CRB members of course, but particularly the latter - I hope. Right now, the default in the CRB is that members pretty much manage decisions in the categories they understand. That means a really huge concentration of power on a couple of people.

    Looking back, my greatest "Oh, crap" realization - stoopid after 20+ years doing this - was that the CRB does NOT make decisions as a body, where category-specific issues are concerned. At least not in the way I pictured in my naiave little head...

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    I like the CRB guys, but I do not have a clear picture as to how their decisions are made either. I assume it is a vote, but I also get the feeling (possibly wrong) that the liasion to a particular committee really can set the tone for the vote (meaning influence it).
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffYoung View Post
    I like the CRB guys, but I do not have a clear picture as to how their decisions are made either. I assume it is a vote, but I also get the feeling (possibly wrong) that the liasion to a particular committee really can set the tone for the vote (meaning influence it).

    I was like Kirk. When the ITAC gets something, we'd debate it as a committee. Certain things I knew little of I just went with the 'expert'. In hindsight, I wish I had been more mercurial about that. However the now lost (I assume) "confidence vote" aspect of the Process was an awesome response to that issue. I assumed the CRB did the same thing, in that the whole committee hears the case and the recommendation and votes. When I was told that a CRB member was completely unfamiliar with the Process...which had been in use for years, it dawned on me that things were far from what I had assumed.

    It became clear that the ITAC had developed practices and procedures that were of a higher standard than the CrB was using, and was comfortable with. That's sad.
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    I just sent a letter regarding a proposed rules change from the May fastrack and in doing so I noticed that almost the entire ITAC is based in the Southeast, Josh being the exception way out in Cali.

    should we not have an ITAC member from every regional championship / division? NARRC / MARRS / SARRC / etc?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chip42 View Post
    I just sent a letter regarding a proposed rules change from the May fastrack and in doing so I noticed that almost the entire ITAC is based in the Southeast, Josh being the exception way out in Cali.

    should we not have an ITAC member from every regional championship / division? NARRC / MARRS / SARRC / etc?
    We have Gary Semerdjian from SoCal as well as me (from NorCal).

    Your proposal would be great, but just like the idea of term limits, these things only work if there are enough interested parties to fill the slots. We don't get very many resumes, we definitely don't get one from each location.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoshS View Post
    We have Gary Semerdjian from SoCal as well as me (from NorCal).

    Your proposal would be great, but just like the idea of term limits, these things only work if there are enough interested parties to fill the slots. We don't get very many resumes, we definitely don't get one from each location.

    Josh... Just coght up on a little reading in the forums, had to lol... Why would anyone want to be on the ITAC? The CRB hasn't changed yet has it? Please be sure to let me know when it does so I can reconsider volunteering time again to the business we call a club!

    Also why are you even considering the 12 reclassifications or adjustments? Are they on newly classed cars? It's still illigal to change anything else correct?

    Also to be clear for everyone where should we send e-mails to in NOT supporting IT to become even more a production class.

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