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    If I were building a car today, I'd look hard at Prod. Hard. STL, done right, is pretty pricey, (to do a full and proper build) and (although i haven't studied it hard for a while) is still a category/class in flux. The STAC has a vision and changes will happen to get to that vision. And I'm not sure I'm onboard with the vision.
    Thats if i was doing "serious" club racing. IT would be not a consideration because of it's exclusion from the Runoffs.

    If I'm just goofing around and don't care about results, then maybe IT could be fun. I think it's easier today to pick a car, and be 'competitive" (Close to the front) than a decade ago, with more choices, AND........I don't fear every new classification. (!4 years ago, I'd read fastrack with fear in my heart: "Oh crap what'd they put in ITA NOW that will fuck me over?" And it seemed like every so often they'd plop in some new overdog, in an attempt to fix the old overdog. But it just made a bigger mess) Todays IT classifications are less nerve wracking. And there are far less "Hmmm, I think they missed the boat on that one" moments. And I trust the ITAC isn't screwing around making sure their buds are sitting pretty, which 15 years ago was NOT the case.
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    Lets wake this thread up (4 years later??)

    IT in that time has changed a little. ABS is now allowed with some small weight penalties depending on class and we opened wheel sizes up with restrictions on identified section width vs. wheel width.

    there was recently a proposal to put IT on 200TW tires which generated a flood of nearly 50 letters to the ITAC/CRB. It's good to see so much interest in the category. Even if we can't verify those letters are all from active IT racers we know from author's names that the vast majority are. The ITAC submitted a proposal to the CRB on this issue last night but more letters will still be read and if you have an opinion on the issue, write in (but do it soon, the CRB will meet and discuss next week).

    also, we corrected the listing for the Mazda3 in ITS (now correctly covering the -09 2.3L and 10-13 2.5L) and recomended 20 new classifications for Hyundai and Kia models throughout IT with model years reaching back in to the late 90s.

    As always, please keep your ideas, input, and requests for new classifications coming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chip42 View Post
    Lets wake this thread up (4 years later??)

    IT in that time has changed a little. ABS is now allowed with some small weight penalties depending on class and we opened wheel sizes up with restrictions on identified section width vs. wheel width.

    there was recently a proposal to put IT on 200TW tires which generated a flood of nearly 50 letters to the ITAC/CRB. It's good to see so much interest in the category. Even if we can't verify those letters are all from active IT racers we know from author's names that the vast majority are. The ITAC submitted a proposal to the CRB on this issue last night but more letters will still be read and if you have an opinion on the issue, write in (but do it soon, the CRB will meet and discuss next week).

    also, we corrected the listing for the Mazda3 in ITS (now correctly covering the -09 2.3L and 10-13 2.5L) and recomended 20 new classifications for Hyundai and Kia models throughout IT with model years reaching back in to the late 90s.

    As always, please keep your ideas, input, and requests for new classifications coming.
    Do you want to tell them about the ...ummmm..... you know, the other thing???? You know, that thing we talked about over there????

    It would be REALLY interesting to get feedback.

    I will say this: I'd look at the category very differently myself, and would start doing some math.
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    The proposal, which was tabled with some positive feedback, was to create a majors/runoffs only street tire IT mirror category. Only differences with wheel and tire rules. There were a number of additional specifics but that was the gist of it.

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