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    Watching the forums here and in STL the engineers are good at engineering the classes...I will pay you to get power to weight competitive Instead of the pro Porsche shops....light is better. I make the same power as the s2 cars and they run at 2810 vs 3055.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benspeed View Post
    Watching the forums here and in STL the engineers are good at engineering the classes...I will pay you to get power to weight competitive Instead of the pro Porsche shops....light is better. I make the same power as the s2 cars and they run at 2810 vs 3055.

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    submit dyno data and a build sheet and it will be considered. find more examples and it adds to the case. we really can't make a case from one example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chip42 View Post
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    submit dyno data and a build sheet and it will be considered. find more examples and it adds to the case. we really can't make a case from one example.

    Thanks Chip. I'll rustle up performance/dyno data on the S2 and the E36. Those cars are making the same power and weigh much less. Proud to submit my build sheet - been a very comprehensive process with top Porsche shops. My beef isn't about power, it's about weight.

    Its very interesting to watch the experts work out how a car is classed on this thread, but it also makes me scratch my head and consider how poorly I can play this aspect of the game, hence my joke about paying an expert a retainer to help lobby my case :-)
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    Ben I know your tongue is in your cheek. But....the classing thing should be pretty much streamlined and automated.

    The ITAC has, and continues to, use a process that considers basic variables, the cars stock hp and spits out a number. That number assumes several things, like an expected built horsepower.

    Trouble starts when things don't line up.

    Your car, and most Porsches, really, are classic examples. Most just don't make the presumed 25%. (The RX-8 is another, but it is opposite what earlier rotaries did, which was vastly exceed the 25% assumption. Real numbers were dug up for that classification, and they came from outside the IT world, and there was an extremely high degree of confidence in the evidence.)

    In cases like yours, you're really trying to prove a negative. And that gets tricky. You've got skin in the game, and even though we all know you're a good guy, and the ITAC assumes you are too, you can see the obvious conflict of interest that arises.

    So, in order to overcome that, you'll need to be exceedingly forthright, and show how you have turned over every possible stone. AND, if you can provide OTHER builds of separate cars, that helps your case.

    Its a frustrating situation from both perspectives. But, I assure you, there's no 'game' needed. The ITAC is pretty by the book.
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