IT Festival at MO

[dominojd]

If it were a normal regional, club course and pro course would be cool. If it's going to be marketed like being discussed here, only use one version of the course. It will be hard enough for people who have never seen the course to learn one, no less another version. Or if the need is felt to run both versions, there absolutely needs to be plenty of practice offered using both versions.

Choose one course and stick with it for this event.
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Don't be a girl Dave. Pro course straight club course turn. No biggie. I have only been there once and I would have rather gone straight.



I have a question for the MID-O locals. What is the lap time differential between the pro course and the club course? Just wondering.

[R2 Racing]

I have a question for the MID-O locals. What is the lap time differential between the pro course and the club course? Just wondering.
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That's been debated and I don't know if I can give a 100% answer. Some have told me that they think its in the neighborhood of 2-3 seconds. Personally, I think it's down around 1-2. I suppose it would be different for different cars. If you slow down a lot for the chicane, it'll affect you more than someone who doesn't.

I've only ever run my car on the pro course once and it was on a damp track 2.5 years ago, so I can't really compare.

[Joe Moser]

Difference betweent he Pro Course and the Club Course really isn't that significant for the CRX... I was running 1:43's on both of them! I'd say maybe .5 - 1.0 seconds difference at best.

Huffmaster may have had a slightly larger differential than that with the Pro course because the 7 doesn't handle thru the chicane as well as the CRX. I think he was running mid to low 1:41's on the Pro Course and mid 1:42's (although not in a race yet, only qualifying) on the Club Course.

[IPRESS]

Did some one say Turn or No Turn?
I assume Andy was speaking for the small contingent of miata drivers.
Just as The Byrds use to sing "TURN TURN TURN"
Yes sir we vote for more TURNS!

[RacerBill]

Since I am a relatively new driver, and my learning curve is pretty steep at this point, I can't say exactly what the difference in lap times are from the club course to the pro course, but I don't think it is any more than 2 seconds. The difference that I noticed is that I carried a bunch more speed into the corner using the Pro straight instead of the chicane. Felt like the car was leaning over like a destroyer (Navy type) making a sharp u-turn!

[downingracing]

With my poor handeling Civic, I gain almost 2 seconds a lap on the pro course. OVR Autumn Calssic: On Sat. I ran a 1:47.4 and on Sun. I ran a 1:45.6. You can look at the diff. drivers/classes to see the differences between the Two configurations. Now my next trip to M-O, I ran the club course at a 1:46.6 with the same tires and no changes to the car, so take this information anyway you want. ymmv

Links to results from OVR Autumn Classic (Club on Sat. and Pro on Sun.)

Sat: http://www.ovr-scca.org/download/eventResu...atRaceFinal.xls

Sun: http://www.ovr-scca.org/download/eventResu...unRaceFinal.xls

[zracre]

I think we should run the whole track in reverse to keep those Mid-O hotshoes thinking!

[bldn10]

What course did NASA run? Some pretty quick times reported in Grassroots.

FWIW there is a Mid-Am Regional at St. Louis the same weekend.

[charrbq]

I think we should run the whole track in reverse to keep those Mid-O hotshoes thinking!
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What a sick mind! If you think turn one is hairy now, just think what it would be going into the carrousel!

[RacerBill]

What a sick mind! If you think turn one is hairy now, just think what it would be going into the carrousel!
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Naaaaaahhhhhh How about using the new cutoffs and make the keyhole a figure-8!!!!!!!!!

[charrbq]

Naaaaaahhhhhh How about using the new cutoffs and make the keyhole a figure-8!!!!!!!!!
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Shhh! Don't let Evan hear you say that! He may not fix his car so it will fit right in on a figure 8 race!

[zracre]

hey it works on our giant 1/32 scale slot car track...just make em go the other way!

[charrbq]

You mean reverse polarity? Some people have already tried that.

[TAC]

Being a corner worker I think you guys are crazy. I don't think I would want to be staring at the wall under the bridge at turn One as I was trying to setup for the pit straight.

[tom91ita]

What course did NASA run? Some pretty quick times reported in Grassroots.[/b]

nasa nationals ran the club course with the chicane for 2006. not clear what they will run in 2007.

[zracer22]

What course did NASA run? Some pretty quick times reported in Grassroots.
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We ran with the chicane.

[StephF]

Along the same lines of thought here in regards to future events: how old is IT now? The reason I ask, is because over on Apexspeed, they are busily planning for the 40th anniversary of FF. Sounds like they are planning a Formula car only weekend, with marquee races for the different classes. Perhaps there is a milestone coming up for IT that would work as a hook to really make it a kick-butt weekend, with the groups getting their own races, maybe an enduro thrown it, or a relay type race. Just food for thought.

[lateapex911]

Kirk?? I think he was there at the begining. It came form the NW RS ruleset, I THINK? Around '84???

[RSTPerformance]

84' was the first year from what I understand here in NER... That was the year my dad got his licence and and started running in ITA with the Capri!!! Hummm anyone have a 1984 GCR around, it would be interesting what cars could make up the fields then and how its changed... crap this is off topic, time to get back on

ok, even if IT isn't at a "special milestone (23 years?) maybe the event can still say "celebrating 23 years of Improuved Touring at Mid Ohio, then the following year (08) it could read celebrating 24yrs, etc... changing the theme of the weekend to this... The "IT Festaval" or "August Regional Sprints" (or whatever you call it) are in recognitioon for those IT drivers who have come and gone, are still with us, and those whom have grown up with us over the past X years...

Raymond " Looking forward to seeing the final product/schedule" Blethen

[dickita15]

Hummm anyone have a 1984 GCR around, it would be interesting what cars could make up the fields then and how its changed... [/b]

the problem is back then the GCR and the catagory spec books were published and purchased seperatley.

maybe a steward or tech chief would have had the full set.