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Thread: I'll be first to post. Mayhem in ITA at NHIS

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    I have only seen one video (the one posted here) and I did not see the race... I had lots going on in my world as well, so with that all I want to point out one thing that I instantly saw in the video and many drivers I think could benefit from the advice... It may or may not have anything to do with the incident, but it instantly came to mind.

    Go sit in your car and check your mirrors... do you have blind spots? If so fix them... this is racing and you never know where somone might be trying to make a move. While it is the responsability of the "passing" car to have room I personally feel that it is also the responsability of the "getting passed" car to leave room. This also aplies (and may be more relevent) in hard braking zones... Once you have entered the braking zone the car that is trying or maybe made a mistake and outbroke you when they shouldn't have probably cant slow down any faster than they are, if you turn down on them they have NO PLACE to go. people seem to always use the excuse "I never saw you" or "it was my line, you should have moved." Remember that once a driver has made a commitment to some sort of action many times they cant change that, and if you can avoid them to prevent an accident you should, for yourself, for them, and for the rest of us who want to go home without an incident. You might loose a position and if you really feel they made a "red mist" move or "dive bomb" go chat with them after the race, with a stright car...

    My initial thought when watching the video from (I think) the blue Sentra is that the green VW didn't see the sentra, or thought the sentra had plenty of room to continue moving over. The sentra with good reason went for the open hole, as any aggresive/good driver would do. The sentra may or may not have been able to slow down to avoid the hit, not sure. At anyrate, I simply saw 1 video and different views certainly add a different opinions many times.

    Glad to see everyone will make it out for another day, good luck on your repairs!!!

    Raymond "we have all made mistakes, most of us have learned and will continue to learn" Blethen
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    ...And I personally would like to invite him to remove himself (as a gentleman) from the rest of the season. Or run an SIR, or remove the calipers from the rear, or run a 3" wide rim, or...[/b]
    You guys are too much!! Although Brandon was talking about passing the hat among ITA competitors to cover my 2006 tire bill, but only if I agreed to run Toyos...or Continentals or something like that...and I think he was serious...instead of "Hoosier" on the fender I could put "Thanks NER ITA Competitors!"...

    Hmmm.....

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    Doug, let us know when you have your pictures posted. Hope you got one of the new car before the damage!!
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    they were up Wed night


    Doug
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    they were up Wed night


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    Doug - Please post #1616 - Considering the circumstances it's a classic.
    Great Shots!

    Tim Klvana
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    2002 ITC NERRC Champion
    2003 ITC NARRC Champion
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    Your wish sir...






    Andy Bettencourt
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    Your wish sir...






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    What a shame! I loved having a red twin! Hope to see everyone at the track soon!
    Jeremy Billiel

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    No need to wait Jeremy! This is why everyone gave him the 'back-from-the-ashes' award!!!

    3rd place on Sunday


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    I loved Tim's story about Kathy Barnes and his car after the wreck....maybe if you ask him nicely, he'll relay it for you guys too. :P
    Hey, what am I doing wrong in regards to 16v? I go to your site, and all I can find is from 2005 back. Can you post the link to this years photos, especially from this event?
    Thanks!
    Stephanie Funk
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    "Green Booger Racing"

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    Hey, what am I doing wrong in regards to 16v? I go to your site, and all I can find is from 2005 back. Can you post the link to this years photos, especially from this event?
    Thanks!
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    http://www.the16v.com/SCCA/default.htm

    First pull down is 2006 NER Events
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    Ah HA! There it is!
    Thanks Andy!
    Stephanie Funk
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    It is still a bit of a shock to see the condition the car was in. Getting the car back on track was a miracle,
    but so was the fact that there were no serious injuries. And I neglected, in my "height of passion" to say
    thank you for all the physical and emotional support we received then and since.
    I think we have all come away from this with a truer sense of what the racing community is really about.

    carol
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    sorry &#39;bout that, you may have needed to refresh the window to get the newest additions to load
    Doug
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    I loved Tim&#39;s story about Kathy Barnes and his car after the wreck....maybe if you ask him nicely, he&#39;ll relay it for you guys too. :P
    Hey, what am I doing wrong in regards to 16v? I go to your site, and all I can find is from 2005 back. Can you post the link to this years photos, especially from this event?
    Thanks!
    [/b]
    Okay here goes. After getting bounced around during the start at T-1 (almost T-1), I pull my straps a little tighter (video to follow soon), and like a good racer should, find first gear and get the #11 underwayagain. I&#39;m getting all the funny smells you might imagine after a wreck, hear a lot of rubbing and grinding, but I&#39;m stil on all four so we race - right??? I make it through the first lap (finally) and while doing so I&#39;m watching the eyes of all my hereos working the corners to see if I can learn more about the condidtion of the car. I&#39;m also watching the gauges and except for the fact that I am runnig cooler than usual - 160 degrees on the water temp- everyhting seems okay (at that point I didn&#39;t realize I had no nose on the car thus the 160). Next time through T-3 they hang the "meatball #11" and one worker gives me the "smoking hand signal" (you have to remember my roots were in F&C for three years under the leadership of Dick P, so I know the hand signals). I radio to Jerry M that unless I am dropping fluid I believe I am okay to race - the gauges are good. I pull into the pits, find my crew, and Kathy Barnes is working the pits and comes over to the car, finds the piece of door molding hanging off my door, while Jerry takes a look at the front. She says, "okay you&#39;re good to go" - the racing gods have spoken, right on!!!. Jerry in the front says I don&#39;t think so - thank god because I probally would have run him over. Needless to say after pulling off the bumper rail Kathy thought better of letting me make laps - of course I agreed.

    Tim Klvana
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    I have to dump the damned cookies out when I get home. I can pull it up at work, but I can&#39;t on my home computer.....trying to be helpful...
    Hey, what do I have to do to get/buy a download from you for personal use?
    Stephanie Funk
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    Steph, hit the link on the site to email me
    Doug
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    Just one more video for your viewing pleasure. Sorry for the poor choice of words.

    http://www.victorgangi.com/files/Tim_crash_NHIS.wmv

    Tim Klvana
    203-240-1901

    1997 EMRA Vanderbilt Cup TT ST-3 Champion

    2002 ITC NERRC Champion
    2003 ITC NARRC Champion
    2005 ITC NARRC Champion
    2008 ITA NJRRS Champion
    2009 Pro ITA Champion
    2011 ITA NJRRS Champion
    2011 ITA NARRC Champion

    CPM Motorsports Cars - '87 Civic Si - ITA #11, '86 CRX- ITC #11, '95 Integra - ITA #11
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    Just one more video for your viewing pleasure. Sorry for the poor choice of words.
    http://www.victorgangi.com/files/Tim_crash_NHIS.wmv [/b]
    Now I know who hit me!

    :P

    AB

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    Yikes..sounded like you got hit 7 times! glad to see everyone is ok.
    Evan Darling
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    Now I know who hit me!

    :P

    AB
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    I tried my best to steer clear - riigggghhht. - Sorry

    Tim Klvana
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    1997 EMRA Vanderbilt Cup TT ST-3 Champion

    2002 ITC NERRC Champion
    2003 ITC NARRC Champion
    2005 ITC NARRC Champion
    2008 ITA NJRRS Champion
    2009 Pro ITA Champion
    2011 ITA NJRRS Champion
    2011 ITA NARRC Champion

    CPM Motorsports Cars - '87 Civic Si - ITA #11, '86 CRX- ITC #11, '95 Integra - ITA #11
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    WOW!!!!! Glad no one was hurt! That looked and sounded pretty awful.
    A Race Junky from the Get Go......

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