Headers

[p99ro]

Hi GUys. Found that my header has dents that may restrict the air flow out.
Any good Ideas on a Header for a CRXsi 89. ITA
Thanks. Scott

[bamfp]

Call Dave @ SMSP. He makes headers for that car.

Blake

[p99ro]

Thanks Blake but would you leave me a little more information I do not know who that is.
Scott

[Bob Roth]

I have a 4 into 1 big collector Header that I bought from Tom Blaney last fall. He used it for dyno evaluation but never raced it per the attached string below. I paid $225 including shipping. If you have been researching headers, the people that claim get good power are going to the 4 into 1 design and building a big collector at 2 1/4 inches. Such headers like mine are custom built and I belive about a $400 piece on the market. I was going to put it on my 88 CRX, but about a month after I got it, I bought a ITS Del Sol. As such its collecting dust in my garage attic as maximizing my CRX Si is no longer a priority.

I'll let it go for $200 including shipping (48 states). you can, or anybody else can if they get to me first email me at [email protected] to confirm the deal. I can send pictures.

Also FYI, to make this header work, you most definately need to do some exhaust work. You will need to get a new 2 1/4 inches diameter shorty exhaust fabricated at and have them put in a O2 sensor point (unless you are not runnning a sensor). Talk to Tom about what he recommends.

FYI, if anybody is running a DC Sports or other header that hooks up to a stock exhaust. I have a nice stainless steel shorty exhaust with built in muffler that is stock (I recollect 1/ 7/8") diameter. It should work with any D-16 CRX header set up for stock exhaust. Its gathering dust in my garage and for $50 + UPS, its available to anybody who needs an exhaust to go with their header. Just to confirm, this exhaust will not work with the above header which requires a 2 1/4 inch pipe.


Here is my discussions with tom last fall when I bought it.


Bob:

Figure $225.00 with shipping charges.

Send to
Tom Blaney
ExecEdge Business Services Inc.
92 Walling Road
Warwick, NY 10990

Make sure you give me a shipping address and I'll get them right out to you.

Tom

theroths07 wrote:
> I'll take the header, I'm gone until Friday, let me know where to send the
> check to.
> bob
>
> PS, are you gettin out of CRX's. What are you building next?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tom Blaney" <[email protected]>
> To: "theroths07" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 4:41 AM
> Subject: Re: Header
>
>
>
>> No the cracking won&#39;t continue. It was caused by detonation during some
>> dyno pulls, we were playing around with different cam and ig timing and
>> got the ig timing up around 45 degrees, and the detination was masked by
>> what we thought was something else. The result was some hairline cracks
>> on the vertical line of the down pipes, the weld was fine and the pipes
>> were used again. The only reason I changes was some testing for SMS.
>>
>> The headers will bolt up to the stock D16A6 head.
>>
>> The tires are 205x55x14 Hoosiers
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> theroths07 wrote:
>>
>>> Do you think the cracking will continue? Was it due to wrapping. I&#39;ll be
>>> using the header for endurance racing so I&#39;d hate to see them break..
>>>
> also
>
>>> does it bolt up to a stock flange or is it a modified exhaust flange.
>>>
>>> also what size were the tires?
>>>
>>> thanks
>>> bob
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Tom Blaney" <[email protected]>
>>> To: "IT.com Forums" <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 7:15 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Header
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Bob:
>>>>
>>>> I know from experience with a number of my customers who have tried
>>>> different headers and what I found on numerous dyno runs, that the DC
>>>> headers can&#39;t come close to the Puckett header for power and torque,
>>>>
> and
>
>>>> the new SMS headers are better torque than the Puckett. However the SMS
>>>> are as expensive and I think a little more than the Pucketts.
>>>>
>>>> But you have to have the proper motor prep to get more from the SMS
>>>>
> (cam
>
>>>> timing, ignition timing, valve clearance etc).
>>>>
>>>> The header I have for sale are in good shape, I had put some downtube
>>>> cracks in a couple of the pipes when doing some dyno testing. I welded
>>>> the cracks, and used them again, but was sent a set of SMS&#39;s to test by
>>>> the mfgr. They are a good deal all things considered.
>>>>
>>>> The tires are this years Hoosiers, and have 1 regional race and 1
>>>> practice/qualifier on them. The panasports are straight, and true, but
>>>> have the usual protective finish chips from the tire weights and tire
>>>> changers.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> IT.com Forums wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Tom Blaney,
>>>>>
>>>>> Bob Roth has sent you this email from
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> http://itforum.improvedtouring.com/forums/index.php.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Whats your thoughts on the OPM header compared to the DC, 4 -2- 1
>>>>>
> header
>
>>> with an opened up to 2 1/4 inch collector and exhaust? Does the OPM have
>>>
> a
>
>>> stock sized collector connection? Are there any dyno sheets out there
>>>
> or
>
>>> other comparisons? Would appreciate a photo.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Also how much time was put on the tires?
>>>>>
>>>>> tks
>>>>> bob roth
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> The IT.com Forums team.
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>

[Gregg]

Scott-

Check out http://sms-products.com

Also, I have had very good luck w/ my OPM/Delta Group Motorsports (Walt Puckett) header. Not sure if they&#39;re still available though.

[Tom Blaney]

Scott:

If you don&#39;t want to take "Bob Roth&#39;s" deal (which is a good deal trust me!), than look to the SMS header, it is top shelf, and I did use it on my CRX, and did some dyno testing for Dave. Keep in mind that it is not $29.95

So you have two choices Bob&#39;s great deal, or open the checkbook and smile

Tom

[wacrxguy]

PM sent about that exhaust.

[zracre]

Ok I have been trying to find a 90-93 Integra LS B18A1 header...mine has the puny collector and pea shooter into cat connector...bad bottleneck...prob why I cant get over 136hp down...I need better!! anyone have any links?
Thanks!

[charrbq]

Evan,
Try Kirk Racing in Alabama. They made Gary&#39;s 4-1, and I just bought a set, too. Nice work. Took a little longer than it should&#39;ve, but the product&#39;s great. Ports match well, good guage material, should add some real good top end.