ccr double drivers school

[flaboy]

I would like to attend the double drivers school in january 2006.I have emailed the registrar and have not gotten any info from them.I am asking for some help from anyone in that region.I am looking for an entry form. if you can get me one please e-mail me at [email protected].

Thank you for your help.



Tim

[JamesB]

did you goto the www.ccrscca.org site and click on the register link on the left hand side? looks like thats their online registration system.

[Team SSR]

I emailed Mr. Bartlett about attending this school as well...

"Online registration will be via myautoevents.com, so if you're not registered on this, you can do that in advance. Entry fee will be $385."

I was told the school should be open for registration shortly.
I sent my sons forms to Kansas this morning.

[erlrich]

Registration is now open for the school.

[Catch22]

I went to this school last year and was very impressed. CCR did a great job, and the instructor to student ratio was excellent.

[flaboy]

i just signed up on sunday 12/11.sent all my paper work in for my novice permit on monday.can't wait to go.i only hope theres no rain or snow or cold weather.


the only bad thing about this school is that i will be there alone,no help.but i'm sure the'll be someone around to help me out if i need help.



it's been 15 years since i've raced and i can't wait to run again.

[erlrich]

Originally posted by flaboy@Dec 13 2005, 09:26 PM
the only bad thing about this school is that i will be there alone,no help

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You won't be the only one - with having to leave Thursday there's no way I will be able to get anyone to come down with me. I only hope CCR is not like the DC Region and requires a crew member for each driver. I didn't see anything in the sups.

[Catch22]

I'd be careful about that guys. You will get TONS of seat time and classroom time at this school. If anything goes wrong you either wont have time to fix it or you'll miss sessions, and if you miss too many sessions you wont pass the school.

GET CREW.
Pay someone to go with you if you have to.

[Gregg]

Originally posted by erlrich@Dec 13 2005, 10:05 PM
You won't be the only one - with having to leave Thursday there's no way I will be able to get anyone to come down with me. I only hope CCR is not like the DC Region and requires a crew member for each driver. I didn't see anything in the sups.

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Earl-

There's nothing in the supps about crew being required for a WDCR school. It's simply a very strong suggestion since the driver isn't going to have time to work on his car between sessions. I would assume that it's no different at any of the schools you might attend as they're quite intense and emmersive. Having been on both the learning and teaching end, I can tell you that car prep goes a long way towards being able to complete your school.

Good luck to all of you!

[Racerboy03]

Tim,

I may be able to come down and help you out that weekend. Shoot me an email:

[email protected]

-Mark

[JeffYoung]

I echo Scott's comments:

1. It was a GREAT school last year (I was there crewing for a buddy). 30 cars max I think, good student/instructor ratio, and other than an SRF that kept spinning, everyone stayed pretty level headed.

2. Do have crew if you can. You are on track a lot and won't have time to work on the car. Crew is not required, and I made it through Savannah school (in a British car no less) without crew, but it's asking for trouble if you don't carry someone down with you.

3. I may be instructing this year, but if not (and even if I am), come see me if you need some help. I'll be in a big green Suburban with yellow and gold stripes -- RTP Racing on the side. Can't miss it, especially in a "light" paddock.

Good luck, and hope to see you down there.

Jeff

[JamesB]

Greg you are wrong, the WDCR sups state

OTHER REQUIREMENTS:
�� Each student is required to obtain and read a copy of the
current GCR prior to the school. GCRs may be purchased
from the SCCA National Office (www.scca.com, 800-
770-2055).
�� It is mandatory that each student have at least one
responsible crew member present at this event.

[Gregg]

Originally posted by JamesB@Dec 14 2005, 01:30 PM
It is mandatory that each student have at least one
responsible crew member present at this event.

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Well, then I stand corrected and I appreciate it. As JamesB will attest since he paddocked next to a driver/car combo that would have not made it through school (or as much as it did) without competant crew on hand to wrench (and tug and pull) away while the student was in madatory classroom sessions, that crew is many times a necessity. I think you´ll also find some posts from racers that just finsihed their rookie seasons that I personally crewed for that note how necessary this is.

Maybe it´s best to look at it this way....most of us have no problem coming solo for a sprint race. Would you do the same for a 12hr (or even a six hour) endurance race?

Hopefully Mark will be able to come down from Charlotte and help you out.

[gmmiata]

Originally posted by flaboy@Dec 13 2005, 09:26 PM
i just signed up on sunday 12/11.sent all my paper work in for my novice permit on monday.can't wait to go.i only hope theres no rain or snow or cold weather.
the only bad thing about this school is that i will be there alone,no help.but i'm sure the'll be someone around to help me out if i need help.
it's been 15 years since i've raced and i can't wait to run again.

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Fla, I will be there with the John Deere/ Race Engineering SM. I will be in the school with you, but we will have full crew available if you need assistance. I also have a buddy that will be onsite all weekend to assist if you need help.

Please tell as many folks as you can about this school. We really need to have 50 or 60 in school to make it work, otherwiswe there may not be another next year.
BTW CMP is a GREAT track, probably one of the safest place to trace in the SE.

Glenn

[JamesB]

Your right Gregg he would not have passed his school without using all the resources of our Paddock. I was lucky to get a 3rd person to come down for the weekend that could keep an eye on my car which ran with relative ease.

As one who took a single driver school, I have to say beg, pleade, bribe someone who can take direction, check tire pressures and fluid levels and all the basic other prep like cleaning windscreens. I barely had enough time to use the bathroom if it wasnt lunch break, so I just cannot see how you can make it through a school without someone.

If you can find someone with a competent wrenching hand, thats even better....stay away from current SCCA social butterflys, they can lead to some fustration when you cant find them and your car is having an issue.

[flaboy]

I want to thank everyone for their support.anyone willing to help out would be much appriecated.My wifes grand father will be comming up with me so theres alittle help with tire pressures and checking all the fluids and cleaning things up for me.But if we need mechanical help i'll come begging for help from all of you.



can't wait to get going again.it's been 15 years since i've raced and can't wait!!


Thanks again.


Tim Martin


PS- You won't be able to miss me....Bright Teal Rabitt

[erlrich]

For those who have attended this school in the past - the sups say there will be classroom instruction followed by a GCR test. Is the test based solely on the material from the class session, is it a comprehensive test on the GCR, or something in between? I'm already pretty familiar with the section on flags, as well as the parts of sections 17 - 20 that relate to IT, but the rest I would probably want to go over if I were being tested on it.

Thanks

Oh, also, is anyone willing to spill the beans on the "bring your right shoe to the classroom" deal? Or is that one of those "you'll have to find out for yourself" things? Sorry, I just hate surprises.

[JamesB]

Well what I learned from my first school was bring your GCR, at the same time for the school worry about the core GCR and not the class specific portions.

with WDCR it was an open book GCR test (we got the test 2 weeks before the school.) and a closed book flag test. Even then the open book it took me a good hour and forced me to reread a few sections to find the answer, so their GCR test was put together pretty well.

[erlrich]

Originally posted by JamesB@Dec 29 2005, 12:54 PM
Well what I learned from my first school was bring your GCR, at the same time for the school worry about the core GCR and not the class specific portions.

with WDCR it was an open book GCR test (we got the test 2 weeks before the school.) and a closed book flag test. Even then the open book it took me a good hour and forced me to reread a few sections to find the answer, so their GCR test was put together pretty well.

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Yep, I did the WDCR test too, and I know there was no way I would have gotten half of the answers had the test not been open book. That's why I was kind of hoping the CCR test would be based on the classroom stuff, or maybe open book also.

[JamesB]

From what I took fromt he WDCR school was that they didnt expect you to memorize the whole GCR...though we know a few here who have. But to make sure you know where to look to find the answer and generally make sure you read it. I just dont see CCR being any different and expecting you to be able to recite all of x.x.x from memory. But i would expect them to make you recite the meaning of every flag from memory.