4.25 FD for an 020 gearbox?

[Knestis]

I thought that I had a line on an affordable final drive for my MkIII (CHE or DFQ gearbox code) but it didn't pan out. Anyone have any leads?

The 4.25 came stock on '91-92 Jetta Turbo Diesels, if you happen to have one rotting in your back yard...

K

[vwmann1]

Interesting you post this today. I just had my salvage guy run a search for this trans today. He came back with very few in the states and they were almost twice what a new r&p would cost. He did find though that our neighbors to the north (Canada) seem to have quite a few. Although their prices were no better.

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Doug

[Bill Miller]

Kirk,

I think it's actually a 4.23:1, and it came in what was known as an eco-disel. I used to know the tranny code off the top of my head, but I forget (AGB?). I looked and looked for one a couple of years ago when I was running my ITB Rabbit GTI. Found one used box, and the guy wanted $500 for it. At the time, I had a line on a new one from the dealer for ~$350. I ended up buying a VWMS one from someone out in the midwest.

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MARRS #25 ITB Rabbit GTI (sold) | MARRS #25 HProd Rabbit
SCCA 279608

[VWPartsGuy]

Trans code AVX 68 ring 16 pinion

[This message has been edited by VWPartsGuy (edited December 08, 2004).]

[Vantage #51]

You might want to price a VW dealer,last time we looked they were not a lot of $.
The 4.24 only came in US spec eco-diesel
91-92 if the old memory is correct.

[Dave Zaslow]

Trans = AVX
4.25 R&P
68:16
Jetta 1/91>7/92
020 409 143 AG

I bought mine from a dealer this year for the A3

[Knestis]

...but my most current information suggests that the input shafts are different on those earlier 020 'boxes, than they are on the MkIII DFQ/CHE - including the AVX.

Does that PN of yours actually bolt straight in, Dave?

K

[VW16VRacer]

Kirk

Are you only looking for a ring and pinion or the input shaft. I have ETKA here at the house if you need specific information. If you are just after the 020 final drive then any 4.25 (68:16)(5 speed) will work.

Jon

[Dave Zaslow]

The R&P is in the trans now. The builder didn't indicate any trouble.

The part # is just for the R&P.

[GRMPer]

My brother has that R&P and doesn't need it..email me for his contact info (grmper at aol dot com)
if you don't have it.

Per

I checked with one of our VW dealers here in Phoenix and they wanted $500.00 (ouch).

There is a place in Oregon that has them at a more reasonable price, call overland parts in calif and they will give you the number, or let me know and I will get the number for you.

Mont

VW16VRacer,

The place that has the R&P at a good price is in your neck of the woods!! Go there and plead our case (pick up us the shortest they have)!

I'm going to get the number in the morning.

Mont

[Knestis]

Score.

I went back and re-did our gear charts, on the data from the VIR enduro (DL-1 ROCKS), and I've decided to go with the more conservative 3.94 FD. That decision wasn't hurt by the fact that we found one in a gearbox, in a dead Golf diesel in the parking lot at der Wagen Haus here in Greensboro, NC - official race shoppe of Team GTI.

FREEBIE!

All of the bits are on order and I'm gonna have a semi-real gearbox finally. With the legal ratios, no less.

K

EDIT - The original 4.25 that I was trying to get is still stuck in an wreck of a Jetta, that a woman wants WAY too much money for.

[This message has been edited by Knestis (edited January 14, 2005).]

k,

In Oregon there is a shop called German Transaxle, their site is on the web with their number, I called them today and they have a 4.25 for $225.00 brand spankin new, if you need the 4th gear for the double snap ring it will be another $50.00. Right in 16VRacers backyard.

Overland has them new for $295.00.

Food for thought.

Mont

[Bill Miller]

Originally posted by Knestis:
Score.

I went back and re-did our gear charts, on the data from the VIR enduro (DL-1 ROCKS), and I've decided to go with the more conservative 3.94 FD. That decision wasn't hurt by the fact that we found one in a gearbox, in a dead Golf diesel in the parking lot at der Wagen Haus here in Greensboro, NC - official race shoppe of Team GTI.

FREEBIE!

All of the bits are on order and I'm gonna have a semi-real gearbox finally. With the legal ratios, no less.

K

EDIT - The original 4.25 that I was trying to get is still stuck in an wreck of a Jetta, that a woman wants WAY too much money for.

Hey Kirk, what was the code on that tranny (the one w/ the 3.94)?

EDIT - The original 4.25 that I was trying to get is still stuck in an wreck of a Jetta, that a woman wants WAY too much money for.

I told you those things were expensive. I don't know why, but they are. I guess because they're so scarce.



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MARRS #25 ITB Rabbit GTI (sold) | MARRS #25 HProd Rabbit
SCCA 279608

[Knestis]

This Jetta isn't particularly expensive - it's just that (a) the woman who owns it doesn't understand that it's a total POS, and ( she doesn't have a title for it. It has nothing to do with scarcity in her case: She doesn't even know what a final drive ratio is.

To give you an idea, I offered her more for JUST the gearbox than I was willing to give her for the entire car! I was afraid to stick my head in it to check how many miles it has.

The 3.94 came out of an AGS code 'box, in our case - '85-86 Golf NA Diesel.

K