Bolt-in vs Weld-in Camber Plates

[twist]

Trying to chose bolt or weld-in camber plates for A1 ITC. Running Bilsteins w/ coil over kits and 600/400 springs. Any input is appreciated. Preference or difference if any among BSI, OPM or SRS?

thanks

[joeg]

If you use the bolt-ins, they can always be carried over to a replacement shell if the current vehicle is ever damaged beyond repair.

Cheers.

[Bill Miller]

I don't know if I'd go w/ the bolt-in ones for a racing application. I'm not familiar w/ them, but personally, I'd like to be able to add some material to the strut tower. The youngest Rabbits are 18 years old, and the ITC cars are over 22 years old. I've heard stories of strut towers cracking. Given the stresses that a race car sees, I'd seriously consider the weld-in plates.

And, you cam move them to a new tub, you just have to cut them out.

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MARRS #25 ITB Rabbit GTI

[racer_tim]

Ground Control did mine, and they work just fine. I just had to drill a couple of additional holes.

Picture @

http://12.99.116.38/racing/2002/lf-camber-plate.jpg

since I mounted them BELOW the housing, I had to go with a 1" shorter spring.




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Tim Linerud
San Francisco Region SCCA
#95 ITB GTI, GP for 2002

[RSTPerformance]

I drove 9 hrs to pocono to race. I fell of the track and unfourtunatly I was going way to fast and since I don't know the track very well figured it was like lime rock (nice smooth grass areas)an I could jsut maintain and get back on track, not the case. I HAD bolt in camber plates until I went off!! One had the bolts pull through and the strut went through the hood. Not a lot of damage just a wrinkeled hood, luckely those hoosier guys had a welder and all i missed was qualifying and started form last. The moral of the story they definetly are not as strong, short term they are more convenient and cheaper if you are paying a welder but that 9 hr drive you take and they brake and you'll be wishing you welded them!!! I will admit that I did the MT Washington hillclimb with bolt in plates and didn't have any problems........ but this could have helped in the result at POCONO. so short time they worked out fine long term I had the problem (2 years).

stephen

[Bildon]

stephen

Was this one of those "silly" Carrera type mounts that bolt on top of the tower instead of underneath?



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Bill Sulouff - Bildon Motorsport Volkswagen Racing Equipment

[JackH55]

We bought SRS plates for Rabbit from Dick and they worked Great- Dick provided necessary collars etc for the Car- over 30 races 1 lap record and they are still in car.

Our GTI came with Ground control plates and they work well also- have never had a problem with them coming lose.

If I were building a car I would go with SRS- simply because Dick could give you any advice you might need.

Jack

[twist]

Thanks for the info. Very helpful. I will go with the weld-ins. I know it was a little unfair to ask for preferences of supplier, didn't mean to put anybody on the spot, I know they are all very good, just looking for opinions.

thanks again

[RSTPerformance]

Originally posted by Bildon:
stephen

Was this one of those "silly" Carrera type mounts that bolt on top of the tower instead of underneath?

Yes they are!!! We ended up making a plate that goes underneth as well and both are welded to the chasis and together. Audi also has a round top unlike VW that already has a somewhat flat mounting area.

stephen

[RSTPerformance]

Originally posted by Bildon:
stephen

Was this one of those "silly" Carrera type mounts that bolt on top of the tower instead of underneath?

Yes they are!!! We ended up making a plate that goes underneth as well and both are welded to the chasis and together. Audi also has a round top unlike VW that already has a somewhat flat mounting area.

stephen

[CrunchyFrog]

never ever had a problem with "under-side" (my new name for them) bolt-in plates..

The Weld-in's are a strange beast - they look like cheater parts... and they can strengthen the tower (turret) and they are very reliable if put in straight... However moving from the wrecked 320 to the new shell took some inventive modifications on the part of the builder...

K