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    Default REFILLING HALON BOTTLES

    It's a fairly long embarassing story, but I now have a spare brand new but empty 5lb Safety Systems fire bottle with a sticker on it that says it's rechargable. But when I call Safety Systems they tell me they cannot recharge it because its an aluminum container. ANY IDEAS?
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    John Norris

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    Originally posted by BMW RACER:
    It's a fairly long embarassing story, but I now have a spare brand new but empty 5lb Safety Systems fire bottle with a sticker on it that says it's rechargable. But when I call Safety Systems they tell me they cannot recharge it because its an aluminum container. ANY IDEAS?
    Cheers.
    John Norris
    you might want to consider changing your fire system

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    ill take that as a "shameless plug"

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    Call James Standley at Competition Systems in Seattle. I'm not sure what they are currently doing but he had worked out refilling Lifeline systems locally and had a good relationship with the folks who actually handled the gas for him. I don't KNOW that this will help but James knows about this stuff.

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    Beyond the 'limited availability of Halon' issue, the bottle itself could be the problem. IIRC, there are new (new = less than 5 years old) DOT requirements for materials and designs for firebottles. If bottles don't meet the current requirements, the recharge/refill stations won't touch them.


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    There are actually other issues at play. Pressure vessels have to conform to particular specs (DOT, I think) to be shipped. It may be that they can be filled but not shipped and I understand from one source (one of the largest Halon recyclers in the world) that there is NO actual shortage of either 1211 or 1301. I'll only add that I searched long and hard to find a good Halon 1211 hand-held for the SS car and will use the same stuff in an onboard system when I upgrade it.

    K

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    Originally posted by 7'sRracing:
    ill take that as a "shameless plug"
    lol....I truly didn't mean it to be a plug.....but there are better and easier fire systems on the market....

    I went through similar problems in the past ...until ...lol...(buttoning lip here)

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    [This message has been edited by philstireservice (edited April 28, 2004).]

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    John,

    If you are in So-Cal shoot me an e-mail.

    quickshoe (at) earthlink (dot) net

    I might be able to help you out.

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    Go to www.firebottleracing.com. They are the supplier to many pro teams and sell thru Summit as well. Last time I talked to them they could do a refill. I agree that the alternate AFFF may be a better choice for the long term. We are looking at both systems now to replace our Purple K handheld.

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