Originally posted by Jake:
LOL - The Jake's with 1.6 and 1.3 liters aspire to the displacement of a 2-liter bottle of cola. Thanks for chiming in Kirk - too bad the IT2 think didn't happen - probably would have solved this stuff quicker.

And yes - making us weeney 112hp cars run with much over 2500lbs would make us mid-pack ITB cars that now chew up tires and brakes - probably not an improvement.

BTW - a few of us were talking about the Hummer H3 - amazed at how GM thinks 220hp is sufficient to cart around 4750lbs. What a pig! Trying to brainstorm ANY other vehicle with that poor of a power to weight ratio, we could only think of one - My MR2
The Hummer is a pig? You would love the Touareg that I tow the Corolla to the track with.. 220hp and 5086lbs! I'd kill for the hummers P/W!

Actually, its just fine towing the 'Rolla at speed in 6th gear with little loss of economy