brake rotors

[troyt]

Are the drilled/slotted OE size front brake rotors now available for the 240z ITS legal?

[pgipson]

Are the stock rotors drilled and /or slotted?

[Knestis]

No, and no.

[x-ring]

Kirk's right, they're not legal.

Until last year you had to use Nissan OEM rotors, now aftermarket replacements are allowed if they are an exact match of the OEM part.

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Ty Till
#16 ITS
Rocky Mountain Division

[Tom Donnelly]

Are you sure aftermarket rotors were illegal? Is it just me or is everyone under the impression that you can only by replacement parts from the original maufacturer? If that were true, all IT cars I've seen were illegal.

Tom

[Knestis]

The rule has never said that we can use non-OE aftermarket brake rotors but we've pretty much ignored this issue, getting them from Autozone or wherever rather than the dealer. All the new rule does is recognize that practice and make it legal.

K

[Tom Donnelly]

I don't have an earlier GCR/ITCS but didn't the rule say OEM or aftermarket equivalent? It seems thats been in effect since the 90's. I'm not trying to argue with you Kirk, its just my memory failing somewhere.

Is it that the spec line listed the OEM part and that supercedes the GCR?

Thanks,
Tom

[Andy Bettencourt]

We just did special wording for the 2005 GCR. Never been in there AFAI remember.

AB

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Andy Bettencourt
New England Region, R188967
www.flatout-motorsports.com

[DavidM]

I hate to start a nitpick the rule thread, but what constitutes an "exact match"? Is it just outer dimensions? What about weight? I can't imagine there being a lot of difference in weight between various manufacturers rotors, but a couple ounces of unsprung mass at each wheel is still a couple ounces. It would suck if somebody protested you because of your shiny new brembo replacement rotors and won because they weighed a fraction less than stock rotors.

David

[ddewhurst]

OEM, Hummmmmmm

Where in the GCR/ITCS is a definition given for OEM ? Yes, I understand Original Equipment Manufacture. There are many OEM companys in the world & they don't all manufacture cars. Do all ITCS speced car manufacturs manufacture their own brake rotors/drums ? I dought if they do.

So back to the begining, where is a written definition of OEM relative to the SCCA.

I worked for an OEM company for 12 years & we didn't manufacture cars.

Have Fun
David

[Andy Bettencourt]

This rule is clear. The intent is even written. Let's get back to washerbottles.



AB

[planet6racing]

And I thought OEM stood for "Overtly Excluding Mazdas!"

Boy, have I been wrong!

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Bill
Planet 6 Racing
bill (at) planet6racing (dot) com

[ddewhurst]

***This rule is clear. The intent is even written.***

Andy, you went half way now finish with what you call "the intent is even written"" by telling us all who care where the intent is written.

Have Fun
David

ps: I don't care to talk about washer bottles.

[troyt]

Wow, that was fun. Glad I asked the question, cuz swithching form vintage to SCCA is sure an education.
Thanks for the replies.
Troy

[Ron Earp]

You haven't seen fun yet! Just wait unitl you ask about washer bottles, OEM wiring harnesses, or ECUs - then it gets fun!

R

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Ron Earp
NC Region
Ford Lightning
RF GT40 Replica
Jensen-Healey ITS
1/2 a 260Z ITS

[Banzai240]

Originally posted by ddewhurst:
[BAndy, you went half way now finish with what you call "the intent is even written"" by telling us all who care where the intent is written.

Have Fun
David
[/B]

Guys.... if you aren't going to READ the ITCS, then why do we even bother writing this stuff down???

2005 ITCS 17.1.4.C Specifications

Stock replacement parts may be obtained from sources other than the manufacturer provided they are the exact equivalent of the original parts. The intent of this rule is to allow the competitor to obtain replacement parts from standard industry outlets, e.g., auto-parts distributors, rather than from the manufacturer. It is not intended to allow parts that do not meet all the dimensional and material specifications of new parts from the manufacturer.

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Darin E. Jordan
SCCA #273080, OR/NW Regions
Renton, WA
ITS '97 240SX

[Andy Bettencourt]

Originally posted by ddewhurst:
[B]***This rule is clear. The intent is even written.***

Andy, you went half way now finish with what you call "the intent is even written"" by telling us all who care where the intent is written.

Have Fun
David
[B]

IN THE RULEBOOK - UNDER THE RULE.



AB

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Andy Bettencourt
New England Region, R188967
www.flatout-motorsports.com

[ddewhurst]

Andy, I would presume your next position with the SCCA will be on the CRB. You have all the political leadership qualities required. You answer questions just as questions are answered in Fastrack. Your answers to questions leave the customer

Keep up the good work.
David

[Andy Bettencourt]

Wow David, I am really not sure what you want from me. You asked were the intent was writen, I told you. Did you READ Darin's post? From the 2005 GCR:

"The intent of this rule is to allow the competitor to obtain replacement parts from standard industry outlets, e.g., auto-parts distributors, rather than from the manufacturer. It is not intended to allow parts that do not meet all the dimensional and material specifications of new parts from the manufacturer."

What more do you want? Me thinks you made a big mistake by not reading the rulebook.

AB

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Andy Bettencourt
New England Region, R188967
www.flatout-motorsports.com

[This message has been edited by Andy Bettencourt (edited April 09, 2005).]

[Greg Amy]

But Andy, what's the intent of the rule?? If you'd only be more clear I think we'd understand better...