IT Car classifications now online w/stock HP

[Jake]

On my homepage at www.racerjake.com is a link the EXCEL file. I've added many HP numbers and a weight/hp factor (nice to sort by), but admittedly there are many omissions and errors. I’d like us all to be able to use this as a reference.

If you can correct an error or add any missing HP numbers to the classified cars – please use this thread to do so and I will update the file. If you can include the cell row # it will make my job even easier.

[Eagle7]

Row 29.
I could be wrong on this, but I'm guessing the 84-85 ITS RX-7 HP is wrong (at 160). The 86-88 HP was 144, while the 89-91 was 160. All 86-91 can use the 160 HP engine, but I assume the 84-85 can't, since it's a different spec line. Don't know what the correct number is.

Also rows 29 and 30 have the compression ratio and the wheelbase shifted by 1 column. Don't think I could run pump gas with that 95.7 compression ratio.

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Marty Doane
ITS RX-7 #13
CenDiv WMR

[This message has been edited by Eagle7 (edited June 06, 2004).]

[paulydee]

For the GSL-SE RX-7 (`84-`85 ITS RX-7) the factory HP was 135. Would it be possible to add a column to factor in estimated HP in full IT trim? It seems like you would get a more acurate HP to weight ratio.

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Paul D'Angelo
73 ITS CENDIV
Indy Region
http://www.iridiumracing.com

[Jake]

Thanks! I'm afraid adding the est. HP will turn this thread into a flame war before you say the words "flame war". Keep the corrections/additions coming!

[chuck baader]

Jake, believe the hp rating on the 92+ 325 BMW is 198. Excellent joy.

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Chuck Baader
E30 ITA under construction
Alabama Region Divisional Registrar

[Jake]

Originally posted by chuck baader:
Jake, believe the hp rating on the 92+ 325 BMW is 198.

I doubt it - the new 325's aren't even that high. (stock HP numbers - no IT estimates please)

[oanglade]

Jake, thanks for going through the trouble.

Here are a few additions that:

ITA Honda Civic DX(sedan & H(88-91) -> HP=92

You have Honda CRX Si 88-91 and 89-91 on 2 different lines. The second gen CRX was out from 88 to 91.

ITC Honda Civic HB / Sedan (84-87) -> HP=60

Great job!


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Ony Anglade
ITA Miata
Sugar Hill, GA

[Greg Amy]

<font face=\"Verdana, Arial\" size=\"2\">...the hp rating on the 92+ 325 BMW is 198...</font>

Actually, it's 189hp. - GA

[jhooten]

For the 82-86 Toyota Supra

82: 145hp. 83: 150hp. 84: 160hp (5-speed), 150hp (Automatics. This is basically the 83 motor). 85/86: 161hp.

[Kazoo]

Great job on the list!

Stock horsepower for the 89-91 CRX Si was 108 not 92 as you have in the list. I believe the 1988 model was the same...but it might have been a few less...but considering the updating/backdating...108 is the number to use.

[TypeSH]

The 97-98 Prelude should read 195hp.



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David Rierson
#53 ITS Honda Prelude
Texas Region

[Jake]

Ony - I can't find the listing for the 89-91 CRX Si. Do you mean the 89-91 Civic Si?

All updates done, but PLEASE give me line numbers with updates - it makes my job much easier.

[Bill Miller]

Jake,

Ln. 291 and 292 Rabbit and Scirocco 1.6, 75hp

Ln. 222 and 223 Scirocco 1&2 1.7, 76hp

Ln. 217 Jetta 1.7, 76hp

Ln. 216 Golf GT/GL/GTI, 103-105hp (GTI numbers, but that's all that matters, since you can build any version into a GTI)

Ln. 218 Jetta GL/GLI, 103-105hp (see Golf note)

Ln. 211 Celica ST, 97hp

Ln. 166 Honda Accord 1.7, 75hp

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MARRS #25 ITB Rabbit GTI (sold) | MARRS #25 HProd Rabbit
SCCA 279608

[Greg Gauper]

Originally posted by oanglade:


ITC Honda Civic HB / Sedan (84-87) -> HP=60

Great job!

The 84-87 Civic HB and CRX's (carb'd w/CVCC head) both made 76 HP stock. The 60HP number is for the high MPG HF car.

[oanglade]

Originally posted by Greg Gauper:

The 84-87 Civic HB and CRX's (carb'd w/CVCC head) both made 76 HP stock. The 60HP number is for the high MPG HF car.

Actually, I just noticed that the one listed on the spec line is the 1.5 liter car, so yeah, that one classified is the 76HP 'DX' or 'S' model, which sounds like a fantastic car for ITC, by the way.

There was no "HF" Civic, only the CRX, (which came in '85 with a 1.5 motor, while the '84 std. CRX had the 1.3, both made about the same power, but the 1.5 was "torquier".)


The 84-87 Honda Civic 1.3 Liter, 8 Valve, 4-speed carb w/CVCC (A.K.A. standard Civic H had 60HP.

The HB DX and the 'S' were carb'ed 1.5 with 12 valves (cloth seats, 5 speed) - 76HP

The Si came in '86 and it had the 1.5 FI, 12 valve (sames as CRX Si) - 91HP

My appologies for the confusion.


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Ony Anglade
ITA Miata
Sugar Hill, GA

[nlevine]

Jake - Very nice - I had done a similar spreadsheet of ITA cars for my own use. Here's a few more for ITA (the Z3 and Stratus classified as of May 1, the 318ti as of Jan 1 I believe).


Car; Race Wt.; Stk HP; Wt/HP
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BMW Z3 1.9; 2,675; 138; 19.38
BMW 318ti; 2,750; 138; 19.93
Dodge Stratus; 3,000; 132; 22.73


[This message has been edited by nlevine (edited June 07, 2004).]

[dyoungre]

Line 86 - '91 Escort GT - 2440 lbs

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Dave Youngren
NER ITA RX7 #61

[dyoungre]

Line 200 (86 Saab 900 16v) - 125 HP

Line 202 (Saab 99 EMS) - definitely NOT 125 HP from a 2.0L 2v!!! Not sure what correct HP is, though.

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Dave Youngren
NER ITA RX7 #61

[Jake]

Keep 'em coming guys!! This is great stuff. I'll do another update tonight.

Greg and Ony - can you restate all that stuff with line numbers.

[oanglade]

Jake,

It all boils down to:
Line 252 = 76 HP



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Ony Anglade
ITA Miata
Sugar Hill, GA