is "visible" the same as "exposed"?

[tom91ita]

I have a 1985 ITA Honda CRX Si. When interior panels were removed for rollcage installation, etc., the filler tube to the gas tank is now "visible."

The rules say that if it is exposed it must be covered by a metal bulkhead. I consider "exposed" to mean in harms way or without protection.

Any clarfications on this? tia, tom

[Mike Guenther]

It must be exposed to be visible. In other words if it is visible in the cockpit, the driver is exposed to it.

[JohnRW]

If I can see you, does that mean you are exposing yourself ? Just wondering....

[Banzai240]

Originally posted by JohnRW:
If I can see you, does that mean you are exposing yourself ? Just wondering....

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Darin E. Jordan
SCCA #273080, OR/NW Regions
Renton, WA
ITS '97 240SX

[RSTPerformance]

John-

If I can see "it" (filler tube to the gas tank) then "it" is exposed and needs to be covered up.

Raymond

that rule has been out for a year and i have yet to see a crx or an acura with it fixed, techs got bigger issues i guess.

[jc836]

I asked about this when my logbook was issued last year. The cover that comes with the pipe was sufficient for the tech at that time. Do we need to cover the section where the pipe terminates at the filler door-probably.

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Grandpa's toys-modded suspensions and a few other tweaks
'89 CRX Si-SCCA ITA #99
'99 Prelude=a sweet song
'03 Dodge Dakota Club Cab V8-Patriot Blue gonna tow

[MMiskoe]

Wrap you're self in a single layer of saran wrap and stand on a busy street corner. When the cops book you for indecent 'exposure' (and possibly L&L) you should have your answer.

Sorry, that was a really smart ass remark, but I still think its true. I would also say that if it was only covered by plastic trim panels it never did meet spec, just no one noticed.

Here's the serious part - if you have a remote filler which is exposed, can you meet the rule by having the tubing double contained? ie slide a pc of muffler pipe around it?

[MMiskoe]

Wrap you're self in a single layer of saran wrap and stand on a busy street corner. When the cops book you for indecent 'exposure' (and possibly L&L) you should have your answer.

Sorry, that was a really smart ass remark, but I still think its true. I would also say that if it was only covered by plastic trim panels it never did meet spec, just no one noticed.

Here's the serious part - if you have a remote filler which is exposed, can you meet the rule by having the tubing double contained? ie slide a pc of muffler pipe around it?

[Eagle7]

If I understand correctly, the only issue is exposed non-metalic parts. If the parts aren't metal, they've got to be covered by metal.

I've got a remote filler. I welded some bent exhaust pipe to the fender-mounted filler and ran it through the side wall of a metal box that covers my fuel cell. Urethane tube connects it to the cell inlet within the metal box. The metal pipe is in the passenger compartment, and it's perfectly legal.

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Marty Doane
ITS RX-7 #13
CenDiv WMR

[Tyson]

if the 1st gen CRX are the same as the 2nd gen, the "exposed" filler tube *IS* the metal bulkhead covering the REAL filler tube within it and meets the rules anyway. at least in the case of 2nd gens, this is fine and theres no failure of technical inspection.