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Well, I dont have a car (yet) but you guys make ME feel heavy! Sheesh. Im only 5'10 and weigh 250lbs. I dont think I could lose more than 30 or 35 even if I did an impersonation of Ghandi. Now Im looking at the spread sheet seeing which car can handle my heavy a$$.
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I have an updated verson of this spreadsheet ready... I'll try to get it posted this evening.
Basic conclusion.... The majority of cars are fine with < 100lbs of ballast, and in fact are too heavy now...
I'm going to look into it further to get a feel for just how much a maximum ballast rule would have to be to take into consideration most cases... Those that fall outside the current maximum, however, well... No one said you HAD to remove the AC system, passenger seat, etc...
More to come...
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Darin E. Jordan
SCCA #273080, OR/NW Regions
Auburn, WA
ITS '97 240SX
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OK, I've got to throw this one in there. Back around '91-'92, I had a Rabbit GTI. ITA back then. Didn't do much to lighten the car, just removed the carpet, undercoating, rear seat. Back then you couldn't remove the passenger seat or headliner. Got to the track, ran it through the scales, and I was over 100 lbs underweight. Ran off to the Farm and Fleet, bought 2 50lb boxes of nails, and some bolts to bolt the spare tire back in. Stuffed the boxes under the seats, I really hate to think what would have happened if I rolled it! "Fixed" it before the next race, remember this was before ballast. Never understood why the Rabbit Gti had to weigh 130 lbs more than the standard 1.7 rabbit.
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OK guys and gals... here is the most recent version of the spreadsheet... Make of it what you will. (Same link as before...)
IT Minimum Weights Spreadsheet, Dec. 10, 2003
Thanks for all the input!
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Darin E. Jordan
SCCA #273080, OR/NW Regions
Auburn, WA
ITS '97 240SX
[This message has been edited by Banzai240 (edited December 11, 2003).]
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Car: 83 VW Scirocco
Class: ITB
Min. Spec Weight: 2270
Race Weight before fix: 2051 (full wet, 1911 lb car plus 140 lb driver)
Race Weight after fix: 2310 (full wet with driver and 100lbs ballast in passenger footwell)
Driver Weight: 140
[This message has been edited by Eric Parham (edited December 11, 2003).]
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Darin,
By asking for only one "race weight", the results may overlook the fact that many vastly underweight cars have already been "fixed". Perhaps you should also ask for any "fixing weight" added, such as 150 lb fire extinguishers and the like, and constuctively add that to the "ballast" (even though we can't admit that it *is* ballast).
-Eric
[This message has been edited by Eric Parham (edited December 11, 2003).]
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oops, tried to delete duplicate post but not authorized...
[This message has been edited by Eric Parham (edited December 11, 2003).]
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edit: duplicate
[This message has been edited by TBreu007 (edited December 17, 2003).]
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Vehicle Year/Make/Model: 1992 Nissan 240sx
IT Class: ITS
Classification Weight: 2650
Actual, unballasted race-prepped weight w/ driver: 2615 w/almost empty tank
Driver weight: 165lbs
Car is fully stripped to the letter of the law and has a massive cage.
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Thank you! I was waiting for one of these to be listed! I've inserted it into the spreadsheet and will post the revised version shortly...Originally posted by TBreu007:
Vehicle Year/Make/Model: 1992 Nissan 240sx
IT Class: ITS
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Darin E. Jordan
SCCA #273080, OR/NW Regions
Auburn, WA
ITS '97 240SX
Senior Member
ITA Miata '93
Spec weight: 2205
Actual weight: 2230 (last race)
Driver weight: 195
Car is losing 15-20 lbs over the offseason, driver is losing 25
Ony, it is possible to get a miata to minimum, just keep on gutting. This car still has all of it's undercoating.
Bowie
[This message has been edited by RacerBowie (edited December 16, 2003).]
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Car: 86 Pontiac Fiero SE
Class: ITA
Spec weight: 2560
Race weight: 2730 (1/4 tank)
Driver Weight: 210 and losing.
Every legal component removed.
Chuck Willyard
Atlanta region
Junior Member
'88 looking to run at 2600 ;-)Originally posted by 88YB1:
Car: 86 Pontiac Fiero SE
Class: ITA
Spec weight: 2560
Race weight: 2730 (1/4 tank)
Driver Weight: 210 and losing.
Every legal component removed.
Chuck Willyard
Atlanta region
Junior Member
1985 DODGE CHARGER
IT-B
2320 MIN WT
2370 RACE WT
165 DRIVER WT
RACE WEIGHT IS WITH 25 LBS BALLEST AND FULL FUEL LOAD ( 8 GALLONS )
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1986 VW Golf ITB
2280 min weight
2292 race weight
180 driver weight
power Recaro passenger seat
spare tire
very full gas tank
Chris
Senior Member
1986 Volkswagen Scirocco
ITB
spec weight 2240(? I believe)
150# driver
running a lot of extra tubes in the cage, 100# balast, spare tire, passenger seat, 10# halon, full undercoating and minimum of 1/2 tank gas to make weight.
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1980 ITS TR8
Spec weight: 2560
Race weight with 1/2 tank of fuel + camera:
2610
Driver: 180
There's some lightening to be done. I could easily get to 2560.
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1984 Mazda RX7
Class: ITA / IT7
Dry Weight W/Driver: 2450
Spec Weight: 2380
Driver Weight: 225
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1980 Mazda RX7
Class: ITA / IT7
Dry Weight W/Driver: 2395
Spec Weight: 2380
Driver Weight: 180
Dry weight includes at least 5 gallons of fuel, as I defined it as 'required' when I (ahem) was more svelt. Time to admit that I don't need as much fuel ballast anymore!
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Dave Youngren
NER ITA RX7 #61
Junior Member
Hey Marshall:Originally posted by mlytle:
Vehicle: 1988 BMW 325is
Class: ITS
Classification weight: 2750
Actual weight: 2460 (7/8ths tank of gas)
Driver Weight: 195
Ballast Weight: 95
very easy to make these cars light. i have to start a sprint race with a full tank of gas to make min weight in impound.
marshall
I know this is an old post, can you email me what you did to get to that minimum weight?
Thanks!
Tony Williams, you ITS "Student"
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