Minimum Achievable weights???

[grjones1]

[list] Driver weight
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1979 ITC Ford Fiesta
Spec: 1780
Actual with Driver: 1910
Driver: 165-185 After and before 16 laps at Summit. (Actually depends on what time of the year.)
G.Robert Jones

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[Domino]

'90 CRX Si
ITA
Spec: 2140
Race weight: 2160
Driver: 152

[mlytle]

Vehicle: 1988 BMW 325is
Class: ITS
Classification weight: 2750
Actual weight: 2460 (7/8ths tank of gas)
Driver Weight: 195
Ballast Weight: 95

very easy to make these cars light. i have to start a sprint race with a full tank of gas to make min weight in impound.

marshall

[Banzai240]

Originally posted by mlytle:
Vehicle: 1988 BMW 325is
Class: ITS
Classification weight: 2750
Actual weight: 2460 (7/8ths tank of gas)
Driver Weight: 195
Ballast Weight: 95

Marshall,

Is the 2460 weight WITH driver, or WITHOUT??? I need to know the weight of the car, WITH driver, in normal race trim, MINUS any actual ballast weight...

Thanks,



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Darin E. Jordan
SCCA #273080, OR/NW Regions
Auburn, WA
ITS '97 240SX

[mlytle]

actual is without driver.
note that actual + driver + ballast = classification weight.

when you say "race weight" do you mean at the start or finish? 20+lbs difference for a 30min sprint. i try to finish at 2755 total. so that would be 2660 without ballast.

[Banzai240]

Originally posted by mlytle:
i try to finish at 2755 total. so that would be 2660 without ballast.

OK, 2660 makes a lot more sense... You had typed 2460 above, which resulted in a 180lb driver needing over 300lbs of ballast! Kind of didn't jive with the 95lbs you noted...

Thanks for responding...

Darin

[ITANorm]

Vehicle: 1986 Toyota MR2
Class: ITA
Classification weight: 2370
Actual weight: 2375
Driver Weight: 180

I suspect the car could drop another 25 pounds, legally; no more.

[Banzai240]

I've updated the online version of the spreadsheet containing this data, as well as added some logic to reflect cars that are over/underweight... The negative ballast values, which appear in Red, are those cars that, in whatever prep they are, are over their minimum weight...

Enjoy!

IT Minimum Weights Spreadsheet, Nov. 10, 2003

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Darin E. Jordan
SCCA #273080, OR/NW Regions
Auburn, WA
ITS '97 240SX


[This message has been edited by Banzai240 (edited November 10, 2003).]

[ITANorm]

Just FWIW, I'd like to see the Briggen Brothers' VW's listed. I think they would blow the ITB VW GTI numbers out the door. I do know that when someone else borrowed one of their cars (and he was no lightweight himself), and they forgot to re-ballast, he was underweight by over 100#.

[VW16VRacer]

Car: 89 16V Golf
Spec weight (ICSCC EP) 2214 w/driver
Actual weight: 2320 w/driver
driver: 190

Jon Bonforte #99
German Performance Systems
Portland Oregon

[VW16VRacer]

P.S.

Car would run ITA

Originally posted by dspillrat:
Hey!! watchit I resemble that remark.....Food in general is the enemy,I like it all
David

LOL Most of us resemble that remark, F.G.C.A
Fat Guys Club of America
next year there putting in all handycapped portoheads w/handrials to speed up the paddock. now you know why there not classifying any new prod cars, we dont fit in them anyway...... Cobra is coming out with a new seat for club racers, there calling it the "Imola Lardo"... The club was going to bring back the Le Manns running start but they didnt think a picture of 40 guys butts stuck in windows would be good for the cover of "Sports Car"...
Sorry to hijack your thread Darrin, just thought it would be funny to point out that combined we have the curb weight of the Lusitania..



[This message has been edited by 7'sRracing (edited November 11, 2003).]

[chuck baader]

For those of you that didn't know, Sparco already makes a wide seat, the EVO 2, better known as the "FA" seat..fat azz...I love mine with my 275# frame....

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Chuck Baader
SEDIV ITS #36 E30 BMW
Alabama Region Assistant Race Chair, Divisional Registrar

[fiestadude]

Car: 1979 Ford Fiesta
Class: ITC
Spec Weight: 1780
Race Weight: 1955
Driver weight: 190



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JJ
#62 ITC

[sgraves]

I didn't see this one on the spreadsheet. Here it is again.

1984 Porsche 944
Spec weight = 2715lbs
Actual weight = 2745lbs at last race with 4 gallons of fuel.
Driver weight = 175lbs
I could easily get this car below the minimum weight.

[geekITSracer]

Car: 240Z
Class: ITS
Spec weight: 2430
Weight w/driver & 1/2 tank: 2441
Driver weight: ~130

No ballast, but I haven't stripped it, either, nor sprung for Panasports yet.

[philstireservice]

Car: 94 Acura GSR
Class : ITS
Spec Weight: 2690
Race Weight: 2730 (full tank, 55lbs ballast)
Driver weight: 185

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Phil Phillips
94 Acura Integra GSR #4
ITS/H3/ST1
www.philstireservice.com
Amsoil Dealer
distributor for FireCharger AFFF fire systems
Hoosier Tire Dealer
Toyo Tire Dealer

[philstireservice]

Car: 94 Acura GSR
Class: ITS
Spec Weight: 2690
Race Weight : 2730 (full tank, 55lbs ballast)
Driver Weight: 185


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Phil Phillips
94 Acura Integra GSR #4
ITS/H3/ST1
www.philstireservice.com
Amsoil Dealer
distributor for FireCharger AFFF fire systems
Hoosier Tire Dealer
Toyo Tire Dealer

[philstireservice]

Car: 94 Acura GSR
Class: ITS
Spec Weight: 2690
Race Weight : 2730 (full tank, 55lbs ballast)
Driver Weight: 185


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Phil Phillips
94 Acura Integra GSR #4
ITS/H3/ST1
www.philstireservice.com
Amsoil Dealer
distributor for FireCharger AFFF fire systems
Hoosier Tire Dealer
Toyo Tire Dealer

[philstireservice]

sorry....about the triple post. Server was very very very slow........