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Back when we had our ITC Toyota, we fell into the group that had ECU's that couldn't easily be chipped. At that time, I was against any change from the stock ECU, becuase it was cheap for, say, a...

Yep, and this isn't one of them. Production allows the use of the former headlight locations for air intake; IT could prohibit that, and require a flat metal cover on cars with exposed headlights,...

Not exactly. The folks who argue that the carb people can do the same thing are missing the important ingredient -- sensors. The carb folks can search for the perfect combination, buit it will be...

Yes, I think you did. They are also, in some cases, largely undetectable. As such, they can't be effectively policed, and therefore the rule is unenforceable.

The irony is that it was...

If you haven't heard it before, you may be surprised to find that "Thoennes" is pronounced like "tennis".


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...Don

Got a question to add to this debate that I didn't see mentioned elsewhere (though I may have missed it). What about a cheated-up car that is still a loser? Either the driver is so bad or the car...

Yes, John, I thought of that when I said what I said, but this discussion has been about 2nd generation LP, which applied primarily to F, G & HP. There's Limited Prep (the first batch of EP cars),...

Oops, I missed Brian. But, he can be as conservative as you, Tim. Not that that is a bad thing -- we need folks to keep limited prep from going down the same road as full prep.

In this case, I...

I built a Toyota Starlet ITC car a number of years ago. We had a very short career due to a rollover and some business pressures that came up while we were rebuilding the car, but I learned enough...

That was an attempt at deadpan humor. You reported that your contact did not favor back cutting nor reducing the size of the stem, so I figured if the valve was already made that way, he wouldn't...

Well, I guess if I was still building a car, I'd just have to buy some valves that already have a smaller stem and a different profile on the back of the head. My justification is actually in the...

OK. I spent some time with the PCS, and I see where you're coming from.

The PCS allows rear disc conversions if you have rear drums. I think we all agree about that.

The Spec lines override...

Aw, c'mon K. Unless you've been totally corrupted by the "do it this way" mindset of most educators, for a guy as smart as you the Mind Game of Prod rules is part of the fun! The rules were...

No doubt the limited prep brake rules are open to some interpretation. I think the confusion starts because historically, all prod cars, including full prep, have been required to run factory spec...

Well, of course, I'm falling very strongly into the camp that in Production, the head is the casting, so the valve is not part of the head. And, the rules say "any" valve that is ferrous and has the...

I have some Rabbits, Sciroccos and miscellaneous parts available in Port St. Lucie, FL. I have some health problems and will not be able to build the LP HP car I was planning on. Here's a link to...

For what it's worth, I agree with Mark about "any valve", as long as it's (1) ferrous; and (2) has the stock head diameter. I also agree that back cutting the head and turning the stem are allowed....

Had to be Plush in his 510. There were 6 HP cars at Pocono, but the only 3 that have run the Runoffs are Bartell, Kraus and Plush. Bartell is full prep, and Bill says it wasn't Krause, so that...

D_Bat, you mentioned Atlantic Auto Works and UCF. I take it from that you're in Melbourne, FL. Go over to Atlantic and introduce yourself to David Boles, the owner. Offer to do anything he wants,...

Great idea. I know one racer who drives a Ford Festiva on the street. For race weekends, he rents a Ranger and car trailer. You might have to sweet-talk a local rental outfit to get that...

I've got both a double axle trailer with a 16' deck and a single axle with a 10' deck. I used the single axle for years to pull around a Solo II Toyota Starlet (under 1800#) and a Solo II 1st gen...

That would be me. Here's what I have left.

(1) a Rabbit tub with a cage. Was converted to HP, so heater and stuff is gone, has a hole in the floor for a cell, has a sunroof, and is missing a...

I got mine on EBay for considerably less.


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Don Horner
Port St. Lucie, FL
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At this point (7 PM EDT) there is a little more than 2 hours left, and bidding has climbed to $710 because one buyer apparently wants this car really bad. Based on the last 2 Sciroccos I purchased,...

Jake, nice summary. That's the kind of stuff that makes racing so interesting for me (I should repeat for those who don't know it, I have zero driving talent and no eye-hand coordination, so my son...