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    1) Move it to B at Process Weight 2) Former...

    1) Move it to B at Process Weight
    2) Former Chairman of the ITAC who fought for this to happen every time it came up! :dead_horse:
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    That's funny... Since Joe happens to be my...

    That's funny... Since Joe happens to be my best friend... and I've been involved in installing several of these systems... Joe... How many has it been??? ;) Also happen to be an EMBEDDED...
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    This is completely absurd, for any number of...

    This is completely absurd, for any number of reasons already mentioned above... :rolleyes:

    That's a pretty damn big caviate, dude... The hp/torque potential was adjusted based on an optimized...
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    Small??? "2-3%" on average "across the entire...

    Small??? "2-3%" on average "across the entire power band"... (remember "area under the curve"??? )

    Let's see... If a car makes 150hp in IT trim, and can gain a "small" 3% increase in HP, that's...
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    :blink: This is road racing... I think the...

    :blink: This is road racing... I think the suspension has a little to do with it... :unsure: Geometry is important, as is design...

    Suspension has placed certain cars in ITB that otherwise...
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    NO, that is NOT what I was saying... what I was...

    NO, that is NOT what I was saying... what I was saying is that, JUST like was the case with your parents, there are some here with knowledge and background that are willing to share their experiences...
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    Exactly Bill... Those of you with kid's... ...

    Exactly Bill...

    Those of you with kid's... especially teenage kids... How many of you would let your kids make their own rules??? ... or set their own curfew??? ... or decide what's best to...
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    Come on guys... I'm waiting for someone to...

    Come on guys... I'm waiting for someone to address this... After all the assurances that there are "limits" and that the playing field will be "more equal/fair"... Please explain to us how...
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    :blink: Just what exactly do you think people...

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    Just what exactly do you think people are going to think "replaced" means??? It's pretty open-ended, to say the least...

    Also, wasn't "modifed or replaced" the exact verbage used in...
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    Not exactly... The end result of changing the...

    Not exactly... The end result of changing the shock rules to make sense, as they do now, was NO change in the performance of the shock... People just didn't have to buy their Penskes, machine the...
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    NO... You said it all right there... ...

    NO...





    You said it all right there...

    Area under the curve guys... area under the curve...
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    Guys, I would suggest that everyone running a...

    Guys,

    I would suggest that everyone running a Carburated IT car submit a letter similiar to the one I sent in (see below):



    The "Process" does not take into consideration all of the gains in...
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    OPEN ECUs??? :blink: We'll, it's...

    OPEN ECUs??? :blink:

    We'll, it's happened... And IT WAS heading is such an excellent direction...

    This is going to go down as one of the worst things to ever happen to IT... Things were...
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    Well.... It's nice to know that after a year...

    Well.... It's nice to know that after a year away... I could jump right back into these discussions as if I had never left... :014:

    It's always good for a chuckle when people take the driver out...
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    That's exactly my point! I would think that you...

    That's exactly my point! I would think that you would NOT want a rule that does this...
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    Really...??? BS.... if everyone follows the...

    Really...??? BS.... if everyone follows the same rules, than all you are doing is maintaining staus-quo... Those with the means will have even more options available, and those who use the same...
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    After all the time I spent on the ITAC, and...

    After all the time I spent on the ITAC, and everything we got done, you'd think that some of you could give me a little more credit than that... FOCUS ON THE BALL guys!

    The word "replace" should...
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    You mean you actually prefer "Improved Touring"...

    You mean you actually prefer "Improved Touring" rather than "Replace-it Touring"??? ;)
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    So... there is the logic guys... We write a bad...

    So... there is the logic guys... We write a bad rule... let it simmer for 5-years, then justify opening it up further because "it's already being done"...

    First off, a "chip and flash" is NOT...
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    After 17 plus pages I'm not sure what more can be...

    After 17 plus pages I'm not sure what more can be said...

    Look at the features of a Motec system, or any other aftermarket ECU, and compare that to what your ECU does today... A "Chip and Flash"...
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    Equity of opportunity?? :rolleyes: I'm sure...

    Equity of opportunity?? :rolleyes:

    I'm sure all the 240Zs and the rest of the carb'd cars are LOVING that thought...

    Well guys... it was fun while it lasted...

    I think it's time to...
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    Yah... and you took it completely out of context...

    Yah... and you took it completely out of context as well... and completely missed the point being made...

    Luckily, there were plenty here who actually got it...
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    "Hope"??? Hell... I KNOW I'm right... :P ;) ...

    "Hope"??? Hell... I KNOW I'm right... :P ;)

    :eclipsee_steering:
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    No... I'm fully acknowleding that this is already...

    No... I'm fully acknowleding that this is already happening and legal... I'm also asking you guys to FIX THAT! THAT is the core of this issue... FIX the LOOPHOLE that was created just a few years...
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    Andy, you are taking things too literally, and...

    Andy, you are taking things too literally, and you've missed the part of my discussion where I said clearly that EVERY allowance that increases performance moves a step away from the intent of IT. ...
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