Why do you hate VW and front wheel drive?? :D
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Wow...religious references, street tires, Greg quoting the dictionary, a variety of sand filled manginas, Crapcan, STL, Chump, the economy, poor grammar, sarcastic smilies, and no mission statement for IT.com (mission statement? mission statement? )
Did I miss anything in the Cliff's Note version?
Must be January in New England.
Carry on....
Steph
Nailed it!Quote:
Must be January in New England.
T
The funny part is we in New England get it and are putting it into action:D
It's winter in New England.
It's snowing today.
Race car's on home lift getting Sebring Maintenance (the amount of broken s**t is fairly impressive).
Mr Webmaster is upgrading us to the 2010's.
I have beer.
What more could one ask for?
I think the street tire thing would be good for the CrapCans - race tires will put much higher loads on everything on the car and crap *will* break sooner.
Also good to be consistent with another org based ruleset. If it takes off and the racers want Stickies, let them ask for them.
In the meantime street tires is a good idea imho.
While I appreciate all the passion and well-reasoned opinions on what NER ITEZ should be with regard to tires and other things the region has chosen to make the class as non-exclusionary as possible in an effort to be inclusive. For 2014 you can run any DOT tire.
I hope those that want to race on street tires come and run with us and I promise if enough show up that want a street tire class we will build a street tire class, but that decision will be made by the region to support racers who race with us and support the region, not opinions on the internet.
You can change the direction of SCCA Club Racing but you have to do it with participation not internet posts.
Another one of my favorite bars...
interesting twist on the claimer rule:
9. Claimer Rule
A) Any competitor that finishes 3
rd, or 2nd, in a points race is eligible to “Claim” (buy) another competitors vehicle that
finished ahead AND turned a faster lap time by 3 (three) seconds or more for $5,000.00. The owner of claimed vehicle
will be permitted to remove all safety, instrumentation, and driver comfort gear (seat, aftermarket gauges, radios,
helmet blower, hydration, body temp regulators) other than roll cage. Owner of claimed vehicle has reciprocal option
to buy claimers vehicle for $3,000 if so desired (less permitted removal items above). In the case of multiple claims on
same vehicle, it will be awarded to highest bidder but NASA will keep any funds above $5,000.
Example. I finish 3rd and best lap is 5 seconds slower than 1
st place best lap. I am eligible to submit claim form for 1st
place vehicle. I must immediately pay $5000 cash but claimed owner is permitted to pay me $3000 and take my car.
Therefore, I bought 1
st place vehicle but he/she now owns my car with another $2000 in their pocket.
So you can buy a second for about $666? Assuming the 3 seconds are in the car, not the driver.
It's an interesting idea, but it runs counter to the idea of good fellowship. I can imagine the ill will it would generate in my little group of friends if one of us claimed another's car. I doubt we'd be sitting around the campfire drinking beer or going out to Up a Creek.
Get good drivers to finish just in 3rd place with lowest build possible. Buy 1st place car. :) But then that will most likely happen again.
I like the idea of somehow limiting builds for performance, but there's so much work to make a car reliable. Will be interesting to follow - from aside.
I'd have to think hard about which class to compete in!
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it's a step in the right direction to mix crapcan enthusiasm with proper racecar building. not sure if it will be successful but I'm watching.
The claimer rule died an early death in chump. It sounded good on the surface, but people hated the idea that they could lose their car.
yes, I think claimers only work well on low-variation series like you see in the circle tracks. with 20+ makes of car to pick from and so many years, sportscars are not the best fit for the rule (spec classes might be able to make it work). I DO like the concept though, insomuch as it is a way to force people to honestly operate under a certain budget cap or risk loosing the "investment."
I have been involved with at least three series with claimers. Chumpcar, we simply told John that we would not race our 10,000$ car for a 2000$ claimer. end of deal.
My old stockcar Spencer speedway 1982-83 . 1000$ claimer. some guy came out of the stands to buy my often winning car, 72 Buick, 350, switch pitch glide, F41, rearsteered.,etc for the 1000$. I had a huge red oil light that could be seen from the stands, he asked what was the red light for?/ My answer,¨ low oil pressure". He went back in the stands.
Most of the claimer rules are in name only and not successful.
For a claimer to be successful, the series has to claim the winning car at every race and thus keep the bar low.IMHO