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The big issue with two sets of races is lost/down time between races.
Timing and Scoring, track clean up and grid need time, in most cases 3-5 minutes.
With 8 run groups that's about 30-35 minutes lost, now add lunch and a shorter day.
How long can the races be? 12+/- laps or 15 minutes?
Would racers be happy/satisfied?
What kind of effect does Friday qualifing have on guys who can't get the day off?
Will they still come? Would the first race be the qualifier for the second?
I personally have a tough time justifying taking a Friday off for a 20 min qual session (ala this National event). Have been tempted to start a the back in a Sat race if given the okay.
I think Jake mentioned this general idea already but checkered flag thrown, "cool down lap 1" happens as everyone finishes, pace car picks up leaders and begins start. Or do a black flag all, and get everyone going quickly after regrouped in pit lane. No change over needed.Quote:
The big issue with two sets of races is lost/down time between races.
With there still being quite a few events, regions should give a few unique events a go. Even if you did a longer race, do some different stuff. Sometime during the event, you must do a stop and go in pit lane.
Just ideas....
So lets give everyone enough track time Friday to justify a day off.
Morning qualifier and afternoon qualifier for 2 Sat races.
No checkered flag laps. Safety cars out on the cool down. No wasted time. Pace car out asap. 15 lap races. Combine classes as neccessary to get to 7 groups.
You need reset time, remember you have workers out there.
T&S needs the time, getting results done takes time.
Next time you're at the track go watch how it happens, you can't just start the next group without a break.
Not trying to be a smartass but, you can't just hit the reset button!
I'm off to the track, hope to see you at NHMS this weekend.
That is absolutely possible if you have a large skilled team of workers unfortunately it is very hard is the worker crew is thin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy Bettencourt
Id be happy with practice and qualifying on Friday as i already have it off from work
Joe DeLuca and Linda Gronlund
In 2006 the Northern New Jersey Region created the Joe DeLuca and Linda Gronlund Freedom Races, this event celebrates the love that both Joe and Linda had for the SCCA and motorsports. Traditionally this event was held at Pocono International Raceway on our Mother's Day double event. Due to a conflict in the 2010 schedule the Pocono event was cancelled for 2010. The 2010 Joe DeLuca and Linda Gronlund Freedom Race event has been moved the TeamDI.com Pro IT round 2 at Lime Rock on May 15th at Lime Rock Park.
The Northern New Jersey Region lost two of our most active members in the tragic terrorist actions on September 11th. Linda Gronlund and Joseph DeLuca were traveling to San Francisco on United Airlines flight 93 when it was hijacked and subsequently crashed in Somerset County, Pennsylvania, killing all on board.
At that time, Linda was our region's Flag Marshal. She had joined the Sports Car Club of America in June of 1980 while living in Sag Harbor, New York. She quickly became active in SCCA activities at the Bridgehampton Road Race Circuit near her hometown and at other tracks all over the northeast. Linda earned a law degree and worked for several automotive companies over the years. She was on a business trip to the west coast for her employer, BMW North America, when she was killed. Linda and Joe planned to travel and sightsee in northern California after Linda's business purpose had been accomplished.
Joe DeLuca joined the SCCA in January of 1980. Joe was the NNJR Board Secretary. Previously, and at various times over the years, Joe had been a Trustee, Assistant Regional Executive, Regional Executive, and newsletter editor. Initially a rallyist, Joe later was also an active participant in Solo II and road racing. He enjoyed driving his Morgan and at that time was the president of the local Morgan club in New Jersey. Joe was the creator of "The Adventures of Raymond the Cat," a monthly cartoon feature in the Northern New Jersey Region's newsletter, "Pole Position." The cartoon is syndicated in many regional publications across the nation. Joe's cartooning was a spotlighted article in the July 2001 issue of SCCA's national publication, "SportsCar." Joe was on vacation from Pfizer Corporation where he was a systems analyst.
Active members in SCCA know what these two wonderful individuals knew: SCCA membership brings a friendship, a camaraderie, which borders on being family. The Northern New Jersey Region lost two very special members of our family. The entire SCCA organization feels this loss.
Come on out and celebrate your love of motorsports at this weekend or over the 2010 season or whenever you get the urge to have a great time.
12 and 16 cars in the open wheel classes now. No combining that many. Good for them.
I'm out, gang. Not gonna make it. :( Somebody on the wait list just got lucky ...Quote:
Originally Posted by ulfelder
Steve
LRP itself is part of the problem.....I know, everyone knows that.
I loved this comment the best....made me laugh very hard, and should be repeated often to the Limerock heirarchy and the Limerock residents who benefit from the tax money....
"No racing on Friday, but we can qual.that makes no sense. cars are just as loud whether in Qual or race session. Can we crash on friday? or is that only allowed on Saturday."
:happy204:
Bummer Steve U - was keen to race ya bro. No ITS entry either???
Nah. New target for the S2K is June 4-6, test and double Regional at NHMS. That's really a better place to shake down a new car anyway (home track I can drive blindfolded, all-day test, shorter races, garage).Quote:
Originally Posted by benspeed
Dang - I'll be at NJMP - I wanted to grind off that Flatout sticker into turn 1 :-)
You refer, of course, to the one on my rear bumper. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by benspeed
Wow 26 on the waiting list. Must be tough leaving $5,000 on the table.
Where do I find the wait list?Quote:
Originally Posted by robits325is
And there is at least 1 for the restricted regional.Quote:
Originally Posted by robits325is
Put the various show room stock nat entries with the IT guys? :)
trying to weasel out of the SM group, eh Gran?
;)
Watsa matter, you worried about damage to somebody elses car from a pack of rabid Miatas? hee hee...
So with one week to go, here is what the groups look like:
26 cars Group 1: EP, FP, HP, GTL, STU
14 cars Group 2: FV, F500, FF
17 cars Group 3: AS, GT1, GT2, GT3, T1, ST, STO
19 cars Group 4: FA, FC, FE, FM, FB, CSR, DSR, S2000
48 cars Group 5: SSB, SSC, T2, T3, SM
12 cars Group 6: SRF
Total: 136
43 cars: Pro IT: ITR, ITS, ITA, IT7, SR7, ITB, ITC, SM, SSM
43 cars: Restricted Regional: SSM, SM, ITA, ITB, ITC, SSC, SSB, IT7
Congrats to the organizers for creating a format that can make money.