Best wheels for IT?

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06-20-2010, 02:42 PM
worthyking

Best wheels for IT?

I need to purchase a couple sets of new wheels for my car but nowadays there are SO MANY choices I'm totally confused.

I run 225/45/15s so I need 15x7 rims. I would like to find eight (8) wheels that are reasonably light and cost-effective (if possible).

What are the best and/or most popular choices in IT? I believe my current ACR wheels are about 16.5 lbs so I would like to go with 10-14 lb range wheels. Any opinions on how much difference the few less lbs makes?

Just looking for general opinion and experiences form others as to what have ended being the best choices.
06-20-2010, 03:46 PM
Greg Amy

Enkei RFP01, 9 pounds and ~$220 each. Done.

If that's too pricey, then Kosei K1-TS, 12.5 pounds at $135 each.

If that's still too expensive, maybe try Kosei K1, 13.5# @ $115 each.

If that's still too expensive, you should either stick with cheap stock wheel or consider another sport...
06-20-2010, 05:17 PM
ScotMac

Spinwerkes. They'll make anything you want tor around $220/wheel. Mine, in the 14x6 weigh about 10-11#. I think the 15x7 weigh about 12-13#. Customize the offset to exactly dial out any scrub (or allows wider tires in the back), and set the hub center to get perfect hub centering wheels.
06-20-2010, 06:20 PM
worthyking

@GregAmy - Any idea where I can buy the wheels you suggested? I checked tire Rack and they do not show those models as being available for my car (15x7 wheel in 5x100 bolt pattern).
06-21-2010, 12:57 AM
ScotMac

Exactly why i used spinwerkes. 5x100 is difficult. Much more so for 14 x 6 (esp the *6* part).

Actually, i thought Greg was right. At least the last time i complained about the wonderful 6" restriction on ITB, those wheels were supposedly avail in 5x100. But you are right, tirerack does NOT show them for your OR my vehicle. Maybe an offset problem? I believe the neon needs high offset, like my fiero. The best they show is Motegi SP-10 at 14lbs.
06-21-2010, 09:13 AM
Streetwise guy

18racing.com, Rota Slipstreams. 5x100, 15x7, 35mm backspacing. I wasn't even offended by the price.
06-21-2010, 09:50 AM
worthyking

@streetwise - Thanks a lot! That was exactly what I was looking for. And you're right, the pricing is very decent. I think I'll be ordering me a set (or two) :)

@ScotMac - Yeah, I almost order a set of Motegi SP-10s from Tire Rack but then I decided to post this first as I don't know the Motegi brand and wanted to get some feedback from guys who've been in the game longer than I.
06-21-2010, 12:10 PM
mbuskuhl

http://www.teamdynamicsracing.com/co...ion_wheels.htm

Call their US location below who can get you with a distributor. Light, reasonable, and they can do the size you want with some offset choices. Downside is you may have to wait 2 months or so for a boat to bring them over from England.

Team Dynamics
Street: 1885 S Vineyard Ave, #4
Ontario, ca 91761-7760
Phone: (909) 947-0114
06-21-2010, 12:21 PM
jungle

I am using Team Dynamics as well....9 of them to be exact. ~13~14lbs, 15*7...I got these cuz they are made for racing, and is what most of the spec miata's run.
06-21-2010, 10:16 PM
worthyking

Thanks all for your feedback so far, however I'm not willing to wait 2-3 months for a set of wheels. Team Dynamics apparently needs that long to get me a set and it also appears that the Rota Slipstreams are all out of stock in the US right now in 15x7 (argh!). 18Racing told me 3 months to special order two sets of Slipstreams.

I need 6 wheels stat, preferably 8. Any other suggestions?

I'm almost tempted to just order the darn Motegi SP10s from TireRack but at 14lbs they're not the most exciting choice. Was really hoping to get into the 10-12lb range.
06-22-2010, 12:05 AM
ScotMac

Did you try spinwerkes?
06-22-2010, 10:51 AM
Kolin Aspegren

All the wheels that Greg Amy listed are not available. The Rota slips are 14 pounds
in the 5x100/15x7. Thats what i've been using lately.

k
06-22-2010, 01:14 PM
worthyking

@ScotMac - No, didn't try spinwerkes yet due to the price. Not willing to spend over $200 per wheel right now as I need 8 of them.

@Kolin - I haven't been able to find any Rota Slips in stock anywhere. Any ideas?
06-22-2010, 01:41 PM
Kolin Aspegren

I also bought them from 18racing .com. Sorry do not know of other sources. If I was not going to runoffs you could borrow some of mine and just return them to me at sebring nat 2011. But I need all of them. Long week there.

I'd just do the Motegi at tirerack as they weigh the same as the Rota's

k
06-22-2010, 11:34 PM
splats

Check some of the junk yards in the area. I got a set of BBS light-weights (not sure of the exact weight) at Greenleafs a couple of years ago for $100 per SET (used). With the tuner guys going to 20" plus, you should find some to get you started.

Also, are you going to the July school at Sebring??????
06-23-2010, 09:30 AM
worthyking

Hmm, interesting idea. I was at Cophers a couple weekends ago and thought about that but didn't think I'd find anything worthwhile there.

Yes, I'll be at Sebring July 17/18th. I have a regional license but going for the cheap seat time :)
06-23-2010, 12:07 PM
PSherm

Have you checked with Cory at modern performance on the rotas? Also. check neons.org for wheels.

Kolin - what class are you in for the runoffs?
06-23-2010, 01:30 PM
Kolin Aspegren

Paul running in STU.
06-23-2010, 05:15 PM
worthyking

Yeah, they don't sell wheels anymore.

Question for all: I've been looking for 15x7 rims as I figured I need 7" width to accommodate 225/45/15 tires but today I saw a set of SSRs for sale in 15x6 with 225/45/15 A6s mounted. Is it advisable to run 225s on a 6" rim?
06-23-2010, 07:19 PM
ScotMac

Advisable, NO...doable, yes. I run them in a 225/50/14, which is bit better, since more sidewall, and thus not as sharp an angle. But you are compromising sidewall strength, and why? You can run 7" in ITA.
06-24-2010, 04:11 AM
Knestis

Quote:

Originally Posted by worthyking

Yeah, they don't sell wheels anymore.

Question for all: I've been looking for 15x7 rims as I figured I need 7" width to accommodate 225/45/15 tires but today I saw a set of SSRs for sale in 15x6 with 225/45/15 A6s mounted. Is it advisable to run 225s on a 6" rim?

We do it all the time on the Golf. I think they'd be happier on a 7 but it's not that big a deal.

K

EDIT - I'm talking about 50s too, rather than 45s.
10-07-2010, 04:04 PM
marka

Howdy,

Sorry, back from the dead.

Has anyone run the Motegi SP-10, or can confirm the weight? Looks like Summit Racing sells them, and they're local to me and I can get them at a good price.

I'm wondering about weight and durability both. I assume I'll need a spacer as well? The offset I'm seeing is 42mm.

Any other options in the sub $200/ea (and ideally closer to $100) price range that are more like 12 lbs or lighter?

Thanks!

Mark
10-07-2010, 10:17 PM
PSherm

Quote:

Originally Posted by marka

Howdy,

Sorry, back from the dead.

Has anyone run the Motegi SP-10, or can confirm the weight? Looks like Summit Racing sells them, and they're local to me and I can get them at a good price.

I'm wondering about weight and durability both. I assume I'll need a spacer as well? The offset I'm seeing is 42mm.

Any other options in the sub $200/ea (and ideally closer to $100) price range that are more like 12 lbs or lighter?

Thanks!

Mark

As far as lightweight 15x7 5x100 wheels go, in a word, no. The best weight/price ratio wheels are (were?) the Rota Slipstreams. I've heard plenty of horror stories, but I have 2 sets and have run them for 2 seasons without issues. Motegi Traklites were prob the lightest, but are unobtaniuim these days, they weren't cheap when they were available. If you want light, 15x7 5x100, your best ( I think?) option is Spinwerks but there not cheap. If you want cheap, you're looking at at least 16 lbs, prob 18 lbs.

I *tried* to warn you about the ITA Neons.....:rolleyes:
10-08-2010, 10:46 AM
marka

Howdy,

Quote:

Originally Posted by PSherm

I *tried* to warn you about the ITA Neons.....:rolleyes:

You did. So did others. What can I say, I'm a stubborn SOB.

:-)

If I have to keep running these ridiculously heavy Borbet wheels (19 lbs! My 18x10.5 factory z06 rear wheels weigh less!) due to budget I will, but that doesn't mean I can't be on the lookout... :-)

I've nearly bought two sets of the Rota Slipstreams already, but keep wussing out at the thought of telling my wife I'm buying even more wheels. :-) Has anyone here actually weighed one of the 15x7 5x100 Slipstreams on a decent scale and can confirm the weights?

Somewhat related... Is 35mm offset the proper offset for the front of a Neon with 225's, or are people using spacers? If I need spacers anyway, I might as well go with the Motegi wheels.

Mark
10-09-2010, 10:28 AM
PSherm

Quote:

Originally Posted by marka

Howdy,

You did. So did others. What can I say, I'm a stubborn SOB.

:-)

Somewhat related... Is 35mm offset the proper offset for the front of a Neon with 225's, or are people using spacers? If I need spacers anyway, I might as well go with the Motegi wheels.

Mark

If your spring perch is above the tire, you might not need the spacer with the 35mm offset. If your perch is below the top of the tire (like mine), you will need a LOT of spacer, unless you have a very low offset. The Slipstreams are 35mm offset and I'm running a 17mm spacer (had them made hubcentric). Without it, I can't get enough camber without the tire rubbing on the spring (currently -2.5 to -2.75 deg).
Was tempted to get some Spinwerks and get the offset to 10-15mm, but just not in the budget anymore. Neither is a fresh motor... :(