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O.K. gang it's time to set the race groups so here is my thinking. Any suggestions?
1. ITR, STU
2. ITA, IT7, ITC
3. To Be announced
4. ITS, ITB
5. ITE, TCC, STO, GTA
6. SM, SSM
race group #3 is still up in the air and will not be resolved till Jan. 18th
Todd
Just curious - is the grouping of B with S (instead of A and S for instance) and the like just due to evening out the size of the groups?
works for me Todd.
i am assuming the S with B, etc., is to keep the faster B's from running with the A's and the faster A's from running with the S's (or beating them......)
Running ITS with ITB and ITA/7 with ITC is to purposely create a situation where there will be little overlap between the front of the "slower" class and the back of the "faster" class, effectively keeping people out of other people races who don't belong there. Combine that with the possibility of a split start, and I think it's been working quite well.
They look good to me, Todd!
Not that I'll be able to be there, but here's something you might want to consider. Due to the allowance for IT cars in STU, the majority of STU cars would come from ITR. So you may consider grouping ITR with another class/category. Maybe STO would work better, make ITR the slow group, and run STU with ITE.Quote:
Originally Posted by TAC
James
What's STU?
See pg. 379 of your brandy new '09 GCR.
BTW, the groupings look good to me.
ITB with ITS (split start) is fine with me - worked well last year. Group 4 is OK as well.
Food for thought. My take is that STU can run anything under 2499 c.c.'s which would mean ITR for the most part would be the faster class. I think..... anyhow for Dan's benefit. STU and STO were created from the old BP/DP classes. The concept is to give other race organization participants a chance to race with us. I bet you can guess what organization that is. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Z3_GoCar
Todd
Any chance/possibility of breaking out ITE in to ITO/ITU just like you're doing with Super Touring (like they did at the ARRC)? ITO could run with exisitng group 5 (TCC, STO, GTA) and ITU with group 1 (ITR, STU). There are some of us in ITE with smaller displacement, lower horsepower engines that would enjoy the MUCH closer competition of ITR/STU vs. TCC/STO/GTA.
ITO/ITU could be broken down by the same c.c. and/or horsepower limits as STO/STU.
Thanks,
Dan
I looked for one thing...and it wasn't there. So, I'm happy...
:)
Looks good to me...
But you don't know what Group 3 will be.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg Amy
Hey Dan,Quote:
Originally Posted by dj10
I'm looking out for you, it used to be DP.
Which GCR are you reading?? Mine says 6 cylinders and 3.0liters, so most of ITR can double dip with STU. Even so a full built STU "should" be faster than any IT car, but given that to date the fastest STU cars came from ITR, they're the same speed. Now STO will definetly be faster than ITR.Quote:
Originally Posted by TAC
I don't see the point in jumbling so ITR and STU aren't in the same group. ITR will have what, maybe 8 cars at most? How many of them would be interested in double dipping into STU if they could? One, maybe two? Not worth it. Really, I'd be surprised if that Group 1 has any more than 15 cars in it, unless there's something I don't know about a bunch of ITR and/or STU cars planning on showing up.
I think this will be the first time GTA has ever ran at Mid Ohio. Hopefully a bunch of those guys will come up, because that'll be cool.
Make group 5 be group 3
Make group 3 be group 6 and anounce that ProIT will be making a visit!!!
Looks good to me, not sure if the tow is in the budget, let's hope gas keeps dropping!!!
Raymond
I'm afraid you're right about the low car count for group 1. Very few ITR cars abound and STU is a new class. I think there were only two BP/DP-classed cars at the last IT Fest.Quote:
Originally Posted by R2 Racing
Quote:
Originally Posted by dj10
Dan, didn't you know??? STU are the new jam cars for those of us in ITR! LOL. :D
I would/will very likely enter STU as well, for the track time. My goal, of course, would be to embarrass as many ITR cars as is humanly possible... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by RedMisted
You might be right Chris. In reality a well prepared STU/ DP should be faster than us. Depending on the car count & times, they might want to do a split start, especially if Greg Amy is in the group in his hopped up ITS machine.:eek:........http://72.167.111.130/forums/images/icons/icon12.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by RedMisted
"Hey Dan,
I'm looking out for you, it used to be DP."
Thanks Z3, I'm glad someone is.:)