AWD in ITA, ITB & ITC

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10-19-2009, 11:54 PM
RSTPerformance

AWD in ITA, ITB & ITC

Let's find some AWD options for the other IT Classes...

Audi 4000CS Quattro... 5cyl same engine as the Audi Coupe GT 115hp same front venteddisco brakes and 7.9 solid rear disk brakes. Should be around or under 2,300lbs in ITB if classed correct.

1990/91 Audi Coupe Quattro 164hp 20 valve engine disk brakes all the way around... Probably Would get bumped to IT but should be super light.

What are someother cool options BMW 325ix? Dodge stealth? Eagle Talon?

Raymond "It will be interesting to see how the 4000 goes through the current process or I the suposid success of the Coupes will hinder that car also." Blethen
10-20-2009, 12:54 AM
JoshS

AMC Eagle.
10-20-2009, 01:06 AM
RSTPerformance

http://www.amceaglenest.com/images/1...lloywheels.jpg

Nice!!!
10-20-2009, 01:30 AM
Dano77

Search for pics of the Eagle in SS trim. Saw them at LRP,mid 80s raceing in IMSA classes. Maybe they were actually Gremlins? Dick may actually know being the father of "raceing time"

Mazda 323 and first gen Proteges were awd,turbo optional on Protege
10-21-2009, 03:39 PM
ronin12

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Originally Posted by Dano77

Search for pics of the Eagle in SS trim. Saw them at LRP,mid 80s raceing in IMSA classes. Maybe they were actually Gremlins? Dick may actually know being the father of "raceing time"

Mazda 323 and first gen Proteges were awd,turbo optional on Protege

the mazdas were the 323 gtx if i remember and was directed more towards the rally world, great cars, i actually had a 1980 glc. I believe team highball(i think was the name) campaigned some in the 80's
10-21-2009, 04:08 PM
Lael Cleland

AWD dodge caravan! ford tempo AWD! Subi Brat(ITD or E)!!!!Honda Civic Wagon RealTime 4x4!!! Volvo S40 AWD????VW Quantam Syncro(its a 4000)!!
10-23-2009, 09:10 PM
RHallRacing

Suby Impreza. 2.5 in A and 2.2 in B?
10-26-2009, 09:43 AM
Bill Miller

Quote:

Originally Posted by RSTPerformance

Let's find some AWD options for the other IT Classes...

Audi 4000CS Quattro... 5cyl same engine as the Audi Coupe GT 115hp same front venteddisco brakes and 7.9 solid rear disk brakes. Should be around or under 2,300lbs in ITB if classed correct.

Raymond,

The Golf III makes 115 hp stock, and is @ 2350#, which some have said is 50# light (rear beam negative adder). I'm thinking that AWD is going to carry some kind of weight penalty (50#?, 100#? xxx#?).
10-26-2009, 09:53 AM
Andy Bettencourt

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Originally Posted by Bill Miller

Raymond,

The Golf III makes 115 hp stock, and is @ 2350#, which some have said is 50# light (rear beam negative adder). I'm thinking that AWD is going to carry some kind of weight penalty (50#?, 100#? xxx#?).

Do people think AWD should carry a penalty or is the penalty already built in with extra drivetrain losses? Would probably not get the FWD subtractor either.

A 115hp AWD car in ITB would probably weight 2445.
10-26-2009, 10:02 AM
JeffYoung

Seems to me it is built in in losses.
10-26-2009, 10:33 AM
dickita15

I agree with Jeff. Dry performance should be poor enough with the extra losses to prevent an overdog and while it will be better in bad conditions that is really a case of horses for courses,
10-27-2009, 08:38 AM
BruceG

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Originally Posted by dickita15

I agree with Jeff. Dry performance should be poor enough with the extra losses to prevent an overdog and while it will be better in bad conditions that is really a case of horses for courses,

AWD would be an instant podium finisher at LRP, Dick....given the fact that it always rains....LOL
10-27-2009, 10:58 AM
Lael Cleland

subi justy 4x4
10-29-2009, 01:20 AM
RSTPerformance

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy Bettencourt

Do people think AWD should carry a penalty or is the penalty already built in with extra drivetrain losses? Would probably not get the FWD subtractor either.

A 115hp AWD car in ITB would probably weight 2445.

Andy- Probably should be treated as a RWD IMO...
10-29-2009, 09:33 AM
Marcus Miller

I'll play the flip side.... (this will sound protectionist and prod forum-esque) They should be given their process weight plus 200 Lbs.

We have no way of quanitfying their on track performance until they are built and therefore should be initially classified with a clear disadvantage until we understand their performance in SCCA sactioned races as legal cars.
Rx-8 in ITR anyone?

edit: Yes, I'm being a bit unfair... I know that, and I might or might not actually believe the above. Someone has to say it.
10-29-2009, 09:01 PM
Z3_GoCar

I know that it's not legal, but are you planning on recording the stock torque split and center diff type? I'm just saying that spools and dummy center diffs may end up in the transfer case if you're not carefull and no one checks it :shrug:
10-29-2009, 09:05 PM
Z3_GoCar

Quote:

Originally Posted by RSTPerformance

http://www.amceaglenest.com/images/1...lloywheels.jpg

Nice!!!

Better yet:

http://www.amceaglenest.com/images/1983AMCEagleSX4.jpg