Registration is open for Round 5 at Pocono with the NESCCA Double National
Supps ... Register ... Entry List
Qualify and race on Saturday
See ya at the races
Terry
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Registration is open for Round 5 at Pocono with the NESCCA Double National
Supps ... Register ... Entry List
Qualify and race on Saturday
See ya at the races
Terry
Hi Terry,
Do you know why there isn't an "Entry list"?
Thanks!
I registered and the registration is "pending review" for a while (fee got booked though). Maybe that's why nothing shows up yet?.
Jeff / Rob
I'm not exactly certain what is happening with the online registration. I was able to register as a worker and to see the entry list before I posted the links above. Since my post I have seen the Pending Review screen some (but not all) of the time. I clicked on the Entry List link when I started this post and got a good return. This list showed five entries for the Pro IT (including Rob) and 24 entries for the NESCCA National.
This is this first event at which the Tri Region Race Group (Pocono organizers) have used the MotorsportsReg online registration system. I suspect that we are seeing teething problems getting started with the system. I saw this morning that the format of the entry list has been significantly improved over the version I saw yesterday which tells me they are addressing their start-up problems. I will attempt to notify the registrar of the problems we have observed.
See ya at the races
Terry
Terry,
Is there no "pay at the track" option?
DZ
Dave
I'm not certain as I am unfamiliar with options in MotorsportsReg. You should be able to get information from Eunice Gerstein, the Tri Region Registrar. Her contact information is in the event supps.Quote:
Is there no "pay at the track" option?
Terry
Dave
I talked with Eunice this evening. She told me that it is Tri Region's policy and intent to accept payments at the track. She did not personally setup the event on MotorsportsReg so she is not certain how it looks (or how it is supposed to work). If there are any problems, give her a call or send her an email and she will help you out.
She also said that she is working with MotorsportsReg to resolve any issues with the entry list.
Terry
Terry,
Thanks for asking. When I went in it showed that checks and credit cards would be charged immediatly. I'll look again in a few days if I don't get Eunice first.
DZ
I did not get a "pay at the track" option and just decided processed my registration online payed with my CC for the $50 early reg savings. Entry list looks REALLY light right now, only 13 ProIT entries (gulp). I hope they're more folks that show up at the day of the event.
Mickey
Terry, I can't go no matter what but I heard a lot of negative feedback about turn one. Maybe you can confirm if it will back to the "old way" where you can carry a ton of speed into the turn rather than the way it was this year with the heavy breaking and sharp turn. I bet a few are on the fence depending on track configuration. Again this was just feedback that I heard, I can't go either way :(
Stephen
The problem with Turn 1 was that every driver did not like it and thought it was more dangerous.
If you watch my video from that race I had to go 4 wheels through the mud every lap racing side by side. all complaints fell on deaf ears. This is a business, make the customer unhappy and see if they return.
watch at 6:35 in video but every lap was like that.
http://vimeo.com/23596077
Most feedback is that Pocono is incredibly boring. Stupid fast. I vote for two infields.
^ so, wait... what are you suggesting about NASCAR tracks?
Althought I'm all up for a handling track like Mid Ohio I also like a high speed handling track like Nelson Ledges and Lime Rock (which I've never been to but have see and heard about) too. I sure we would hear a protest from Ben. :) That also means we would have to learn the new configuration in a 30 min qualifying. just something to ponder...
I've run the South Course at Pocono and it's kinda fun actually. Running both the North and South courses together wouldn't make the place particularly exciting, but it would add some flash to an otherwise-boring place.
Dan, quit being old, man! Try something new once in a while... ;)
LOL GA!! Byte Me!!:D I've been doing this long enough if they want to run it backwards I'll be up for it. I'm usually pretty good about learning tracks, I just wanted to point out that everyone will have to learn the new track in only a 30 minute qualifying run. No matter what everyone will be in the same boat. :)
GA, will the car be ready and will you be @ Pocono?
Then you should already know that we're already running it backwards! We originally used to run this track the other direction, and without the "back straight" chicane. Made for a lot of fun L1 heading into Devil's Elbow...!
That's whatcha gotta do anyway at any new track, you old fart! ;)Quote:
...everyone will have to learn the new track in only a 30 minute qualifying run.
Negatory, good buddy. I have the head enroute to Blake Meredith as we speak (hurry up, Mr FedEx!) but it'll take some time for diagnosis, parts ordering, prep, and shipping. My goal right now it to try and make NJMP later in the month; if I miss that then we're looking to get back to the Glen for the Fun One, then maybe VIR in October...?Quote:
will the car be ready and will you be @ Pocono?
GA
Boy does the butt-end of that wall loom large in that config...
Mow down the cones on the first lap...
I know I am not normall... Ya I said it :) But I LOVED the north/South combination and found it to be one of the best tracks in the North East to race on. Other than the fact that reference points are non-existant and your in the middle of the field the actually layout and rolling hills are awesome. 4th gear going like hell into a blind rolling right hand turn... then hard on the brakes for a sharp left, then back onto the main straight with a hard right... I LOVED IT! I really enjoy tracks like Lime Rock with high speed blind, "suck it up" kinda turns, This North/South combination had that! However I guess it didn't meet SCCA safety standards... something about only having the chainlink fence between grid and the track, amongst other things, so I heard.
Terry, Bring back the North/South configuration!!!!
Stephen
Andy, did you race on the north/south configuration? Without cones...
Entry speeds into both infields are as fast as west bend, if not faster. I still think Turn 1 at pocono is a blast (when they don't set up those blasted cones!)
Stephen
PS: I think NHMS is an autocross. I also think it is probably the WORST track in the North East and I live about 15 min away. :(
Have they done anything about the concrete strips at the transitions from the NASCAR track to the infield? The ones that they put in to anchor the SAFER barriers to? The one exiting Devil's Elbow was especially rough, I started thinking of them as railroad crossings!!
Bob Clifton
#05 ITB Dodge Daytona
Last event I went 4 off just to the right of the chicane, hit that cement strip, and bent all 4 wheels!.. one of which cracked wide open... that concrete is seriously hazardous.
After the May event my carnage was:
- Axles/CV's
- Front struts
- Hubs/bearings (it was close to normal replacement time; the track moved things up a few weekends)
- No play yet, but I did actually have a rotor make slight contact with the radius arm ball joint. Think about that flex and deflection in the front end.
Does anyone know if those traffic calming bumps aka SAFER Barrier foundations have had any asphalt placed to make the ramps up and down any less severe?
wtf.... you guys are starting to scary me. Even though it's my first time there, it sounds like I need to keep qualifying to minimum. And why do we race there again?
In my decade of years racing, I avoid that place like the plague. The REGION people have always been nice. But it's downhill from there. The track is bumpy, and frankly pretty lame. I prefer the old COUNTERclockwise direction (Same as NASCAR) that has you flat thru the tunnel turn for the hard left into the infield, but they don't run that anymore. It was rather challenging in certain cars, at least.
Now the track consists of the meh infield turns, the awful transition onto NASCAR tunnel turn, the boring non turn tunnel turn that used to be a challenge, then the terrible, anti rhythmic chicane with the awful concrete section, and the huge car eating HOLE at the second (Well, fourth actually??)apex, then the boring run thru the banking, and then the infield reentry with more car eating holes right next to the track.
So, there is not one section of that track that's remotely fun, or interesting. AND, even if YOU do a good job, your chances of returning home with a car that needs just the normal service is 50/50. Three trips there have resulted in three busted windshields. And I'm lucky.
I'll never go back. We have so many better choices.
But hey, that's me!
It's a shame the management has such an apparently disinterested attitude. Could be a neat facility.
I'm in the same club as Jake. Went there once, never going again. Bad drive, bad accommodations, bad track. (Good people, I hasten to add.)
The host regions and their member have to make some serious decisions after this year on the future of racing Pocono unless some serious improvements are made. There are other tracks available including I hate to say it after the cancellation of the ProIT race last year, Summit Point. We've heard from the drivers but I'd like to hear from someone from the host regions on their thoughts.
Guys.....this has been a very tough year for me making any events with the opening of our store at NJMP. It just takes up a ton of time having to be there. I am hoping over the winter I can work on helping out ProIT again finding some product sponsors like we had a few years ago. You guys are a great group and I am looking forward to getting involved again in a small way.
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Bob Zecca
If anyone would ever think it thru-the north course is the best track at Pocono. Lap times are similar to Limerock, and it minimizes time on the banking while maximizing road course experience.
And it is ever so satisfying to take the kink off the banking flat out without lifting til the first real turn-that'll seperate the men from the boys. Ask Butch OC what he thinks.
The clockwise long course, especially with chicanne, just is stupid.
However, the CCwise long course is a great asphalt dyno and a good first run of the season, especially if you want to do some tuning and sorting. Not much for "road-racing" though.
The long and short of this is that this is a National Race, what ever configuration they run we run. Sometimes we have to suck it up and do what the series wants. Then after the season is when you can change things if you want. It would be a good idea during the drivers meeting to address all the potential hzards around the track so we minimize damages to all. I'm sure everyone's intentions are to keep their cars intact so they can look forward to the last ProIT @ the Glen.
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