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Well, here goes. I can essentially get, for free, an 82 5 speed 928. We looked at this car when creating ITR, and if the V8 Ferds and Bitchin' Marrows go in, then the 928 has near identical raw numbers.
I know the motor is an expensive nightmare, and that the car is probably underbraked.
But, I hesitate to even ask, does anyoen have track experience with one of these?
I've seen 2 of them tracked with Trackmasters at WGIQuote:
But, I hesitate to even ask, does anyoen have track experience with one of these?
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Jeff, you would not believe the number of 928 race cars that show up out here in ITE. A couple of them are former world challenge cars.
In any case, I'm sure they have some feedback they can give you. The guy you probably want to talk to is Mark Kibort. I'll get an e-mail address for you, but here is his website.
Thanks man. I will check it out.
Damn Jeff - I assume you already know how tough it is to find a 928 with a stick? You oughta put that car in a garage and wait about 10 years, by then it'll be a candidate for Barrett-Jackson (with a little tlc I'm guessing).
Earl, right now, if I moved it, I'd be putting a family of squirrels out of house and home apparently. It's in ok shape. I actually drove it from Goldsboro to Asheville (it's my g/friend's dads car) 10 years ago. Has sat since. It's looking a lot like a race car to me...
:dead_horse:
Need I say more?
(The most expensive race car builds always start with a free car...........)
(Seemed like a good idea at the time.........)
(Hey, I have to replace everything on it anyway........)
Should I continue?? ;)
But, Dude - this is el Jeffe Quiote we're talking about...
http://castletapestry.com/customtapestry/quixote.jpg
:)
K
Exactly!
And I am actualy getting that windmill to tip!
Some.
A little.
I think.
I can see it, anyway.
http://itforum.improvedtouring.com/forums/...=12195&hl=s2000
Link above shows an ITE 928 that makes itself known at about the 9 minute mark.
That's one of the ones that I race with that I mentioned above. I was in that same race group for all of 2007.Quote:
http://itforum.improvedtouring.com/forums/...=12195&hl=s2000
Link above shows an ITE 928 that makes itself known at about the 9 minute mark.
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I hope you have a lot of disposable income. :D If your got that kind of money, just go PRO.Quote:
Well, here goes. I can essentially get, for free, an 82 5 speed 928. We looked at this car when creating ITR, and if the V8 Ferds and Bitchin' Marrows go in, then the 928 has near identical raw numbers.
I know the motor is an expensive nightmare, and that the car is probably underbraked.
But, I hesitate to even ask, does anyoen have track experience with one of these?
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A hint from me to you - put a Ford or Chevy V8 in it and keep the hood closed. That is all I have to say on the matter.
:D
Jeff,
I'm having a deja vu......don't you own a ITS TR8???
Hey, is that Chitbox coming out to play at CMP? I'll be ready to give you a :bash_1_: :lol:
Uh, not to be a downer on the classing, but you do realize that it was a World Challenge GT car? I'd think it'd be more appropriatly classed with the e-36 M3's which are also in the GT class.Quote:
Well, here goes. I can essentially get, for free, an 82 5 speed 928. We looked at this car when creating ITR, and if the V8 Ferds and Bitchin' Marrows go in, then the 928 has near identical raw numbers.
I know the motor is an expensive nightmare, and that the car is probably underbraked.
But, I hesitate to even ask, does anyoen have track experience with one of these?
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James
I'm talking about the 219 hp US version that was not in GT. Less stock hp than the 3.0 BMWs, the 300ZX, the Supra, etc. etc. etc.
That's not the downer about it, the downer is I even considered this. Doesn't say much for my thought processes..........
I understand Jeff, really I do. You can't tear yourself away from V8s! And yours..isn't it American (Olds?) in origin?
It only make sense then, that you are migrating into what many refer to as the "German Camaro"....the circle keeps repeating.
Never heard that one, I like it. Think the PCA faithful will agree?Quote:
many refer to as the "German Camaro"....the circle keeps repeating.
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Just as much as the BL guys would agree to call the TR8 a British Camaro.
K
Hey Jeff,Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffYoung
I'm not really up on the 928 so I went to wiki and found this:
219hp '78-'79
229hp '80-'82
239hp '83-'84
288hp '85-'86
316hp '87-'91 (S4)
326hp '89-'91 (GT)
345hp '92-'95
So it looks like 219hp only gets you the first couple of years, your '80 already has 229hp. Looks like the '84 is about as new as can be classed. Also note that the 4.7 makes about 295hp in the rest of the world, so the S motor in the '83 and later cars would probably blow the class away if they were allowed in. Then you're left with only the 4.5l cars of '78-'82 only, with the weight set for 229hp. Sounds about like a 3300lbs to me, right about the curb weight of the car.
James
I think that is *roughly* right. 78-82 only, at around 3300 lbs.
I think with the weakening economy, someone building a 928 race car may be just what we need to help ward off the recesssion!
Seriously, I think the car will be loads of fun, I'd do it if I wasn't broke!
No, the TR8 is more the British Mustang. A little more compact, with odd packaging.Quote:
Originally Posted by Knestis
So, Jeff, I bet if you get that car your FIL (oops! ) will love you forever!
Pulled the trigger yet?
The TR8 is the British Cosworth Vega, in reverse. Crap Brit car, decent American motor = TR8. Crap American car, decent Brit motor = Cosworth Vega!
If FIL is father in law we gots a long ways to go before that ever happens, but that car will be sitting in Asheville for years I am sure, unless I grab it. Cool car, about 10 years ago I drove it across the state and it cruised at 90 mph like no other car I have ever driven. Not that big either. I liked it.
Ok, lets look at this objectively...
1) You race a TR8. Neat, fun, green, fast, but how many trips to post race impound has it made?
2) You bought the fiber glassed tube framed death trap of a CanAm Lola for enduro's... nice!
3) You sold the reliable, easy to maintain, competetive, but "common" Spec Miata :confused:
4) You have a really sweet Lotus that would make an excellent race car, reliable, sexy, you name it! :smilie_pokal: and now, now you want to go build an expensive, oddball porsche that few (i can't ever remember any IMSA versions) people race in this hemisphere?
Jeff, you know finishing the race is more fun than just taking the start (I know... remember the Fiat? :eek: )... I tell ya what... let me find you a nice Integra? :D
Actually, for some reason, it all makes sense!
hoop
Hoop, your post is logical, rational and makes sense. But what is objective about Racing!? LOL....besides Miatas suck.
I won't do this, I won't. It'd be dumb. But damn that car would sound good.
Pssst! 911SC!
You've got to keep up the mantra of all owners of odd ball race cars:
"But it's a really cool car, but it's a really cool car, but it's a really cool car"
Follow those words and you can talk yourself into ANYTHING!!
(OK, so a Saturn isn't that cool.......)
Amen! Oddball Porsches don't exactly suck! ;)
Jake, how's your gear box in that?:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by lateapex911
well, I actually have a 915 box in my 911E, but with an upgraded 2.7 motor in RS trim, and it's just peachy, actually!
I can't tell you how cool my Fiat X1/9 was... those 3 cylinders sounded spectacular under the bridge at Nelson Ledge's and VIR... just one problem... in the only race it finished was it was running off the starter in the pit lane crossing so it could cross the line after the checkered flag!Quote:
Originally Posted by JLawton
But it was really cool!
hoop
oh yeah, I didn't forget... the block has 4 pistons.
I'm a little late to the thread, but go find mark kibort on the 928 section of rennlist and he'll tell what a great racecar the 928 is. I don't believe him ;)
The 928 is a nightmare to work on! I've had my 81' US 5-speed for 7 years and have replaced just about everything and it's only at 65,000 miles. These cars don't sit well for long periods of time and if you find one cheap be prepared to sink a fortune into it just to get it started. Throw the stock brakes in the garbage and run something better, but legal. IIRC I spent about $500 just on gaskets to rebuild the top end. The cars only worth 3k if that.:blink:
Thats why I run a rabbit. Cheap, easy, and fun.
I support 100% what Chewy's said...
...helps keeps the used car prices down! ;)