I might as well start the thread. Those of us who didn't get to go would like updates as people get them. Hope the event is safe and that all have a good time.
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I might as well start the thread. Those of us who didn't get to go would like updates as people get them. Hope the event is safe and that all have a good time.
From what I just saw on the radar, it's a soggy Saturday for them. But unlike NASCAR/ARCA, the SCCA races in the rain!
Soggy is under statement :D Poured. WE are in group One Got about 5 laps done before windsheiled fogged should have Re Rain-x it again. Had a slight off pavement whish ended up costing PM qualifying attempt(Still Raining) Looks like we are Number 40 on the grid :wacko: and there ain't no 41. Exhaust was damaged clamp was hitting inner driveshaft yoke causing vibratio/noise/ grinding. got it Repaired. Things slowed as fog moved in and out at various times causing some delays. Overhaul went safely. Helped in Tech Friday night when I left they had done 85 Annuals entries about 350. Tomorow promises better weather. We hope. TWQuote:
From what I just saw on the radar, it's a soggy Saturday for them. But unlike NASCAR/ARCA, the SCCA races in the rain!
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The rain qualifying really mixed up the order in the ITA, ITB, ITC, etc, etc, etc,...........group. There are many fast cars in the middle of the pack, could be an interesting race if it drys out.
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I wasn't there :mad1: , but got the news last night on the phone......
I hate to say it, but that report cheers me up a little bit about not bring there. B)
And depresses me! (RX-7s actually LIKE the rain, and my defroster works great!)
Dry race Ruck!
Word on the street is that the ITA record fell - and fell HUGE.
Nice to know he resides in my Region...:)
In ITA greg from 30th, rick, mark, and joe. congrats to greg. new track record 2:17.9.he caught me like i was standing still. i kept up with him for about 2 laps until we headed to the toe of the boot with lappers in front of us. he went low,i went high and i dropped 2 tires. i went to the heal and the dirt on the tires sent me through the gravel of the heal. game over. saturday stunk but sunday was perfect.
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Word on the street is that the ITA record fell - and fell HUGE.
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ITA finishing order
Amy 2:17.900 cheatin bastard :P
Benazic
Carpenter
DiMinno
ITB
Reece
Theil
Toy
ITC
Meyer
Parham
Burkhard
Today was a very good day for Kakashi Racing. It was one of those rare days where everything lined up and the Fates smiled upon us.
Yesterday was decisively not so. I had not raced at The Glen since 1992, so I took advantage of the Friday test day to not only re-aquaint myself with the track (it's changed a bunch in the last 14 years) but also to try and tune this sled so it would actually handle. We were successful in both regards, showing consistent times in the mid-120s, right there with Mark "Hot Shoe" Carpenter. The day even started out great with NYR actually allowing us to register for the event at the beginning of Friday! I was really looking forward to the race weekend.
Halfway through the night, I get awoken to noise that sounded like the A/C fan was making noise (another story); turned out it was POURING RAIN! Not just drizzle, mind you, but BUCKETLOADS of rain. I pulled up the computer and checked the forecast (something I had not done since the prior Wednesday when it said something like "partly cloudy") and saw that the weekend was shaping up to be pretty miserable. Saturday was expected to be pouring rain all day with possibly clearing by Sunday afternoon.
And we still don't have any decent rain tires.
We dragged ourselves to the track in the rain. We walked into the garage (one smart thing we did) in the rain. We drank coffee and ate breakfast - you guessed it - in the rain. We watched the rain. We watched the ITS cars - first group of the day - get POUNDED ON by rain. By the time the third group was up I had decided I was going to sit the first session out with the hopes that the mid-day forecast would give me a clearer idea of Sunday's weather (since I had no decent tires, I was seriously considering packing it up if the Sunday forecast stunk.) I loaned my full-tread Toyos to Joe DiMinno and watched him slosh around in the rain. I figured the ITA boys would get hammered in qualifying by the ITB/C cars and end up mid-pack.
Then we get the provisional results: Rick is on the pole in ITA with Joe - on my tires! - is fourth. I couldn't believe it. We sat around a bit more sulking and wringing our hands when Bob Smart comes up and says he's got two, and only two, Hoosier rains in my size. Then we get the mid-day forecast and there's a reasonable chance for decent weather for late morning Sunday...I made the command decision to buy the two Hoosiers (my credit card really hurts right now), run two of my Toyos on the back, and get a good qualifying time for Sunday (Joe was going to go with Toyos and some other tires on the back).
Ah, but the Fates weren't yet done with their practical jokes. During the lunch break there was a break in the rain, and by the time Group Two was on the track the winds had picked up and there was actually dry spots in the paddock! The track looked good, too - not great, but good - and G2 had a good session. I had my laptop computer and Internet access and I could see that were were in a lull, an "eye" within the rain squalls, but it appeared that there MIGHT be a chance we could get in a lap or two in the "dry" before the rains came. We decided to go dry and headed for the grid.
Yup, you guessed it: as soon as we got there it started to lightly sprinkle. By the time they gave us the five it was showering. And by the time we were "enjoying" lap one of our session it was pouring rain, and it only got harder from there. I was not the only one to make the dry choice, but my decision to skip the first session really cost me, and I was gridded 27th of 58 (?) cars. The top 4 or 5 were Spec Miata ex-pats, most likely on wet tires. Rick was gridded 5th, I believe, with Joe around 13th. We went to sleep with a light mist hanging over "The Gorgeous View Motel" (yet another story). Talk about hand-wringing...
Some time during the night, I woke up and slowly peeled back the window shades: the parking lot was drying and the skies looked almost clear! I knew that the day was going to be good.
Of course the paddock was awash with conversation and deal making. We all knew that the grid was a seemingly-randomized mish-mash of ITA, ITB, ITC, SSC, and Spec Miatas masquerading as an ITA car (SMMAAITAC). Everything pretty much recognized that the first lap was going to be either very fun or very painful. I saw deals being cut back and forth and Hot Shoe and I had coordinated working together to move forward through the field. Everyone stood around nervously on the grid, trying to relax while saying "hello" to both old friends and new grid-aquaintences. Then the call to order by the grid personnel; we all bolted ourselves into our respective mounts.
From my perspective, it seemed liked I was gridded back in Elmira. As we toured around the track on the warm up I LITERALLY could not get a glimpse of either Rick or the polesitter. There was one no-show in front of me so I was in 26th, outside on the 13th row, and it really seemed like I was left behind. I warmed up and tightened up for the start, and right as I came around T10 Matt gave me the "go, go, go!" on the radio, and I was off! The torque of the Nissan helped me gobble up two rows of ITB and ITC cars immediately, then I weaved my way through another two or three more. I managed to squeeze in between Paul Curran and the wall, and he gave me barely enough room (not too much, just right!) so I could squeeze through T1 somewhere around position 15 or 16. As we exited Turn One I nailed the throttle but found the pack was not accelerating as hard as I expected; I ended up nailing Chip VanSlyke in the rear bumper. It was a mish-mash as everyone moved - rather slowly, I must say, probably slowed up by slower ITB or ITC cars up front - two- and three-wide up the esses and down the back straight. I was doing my best Icky Shuffle trying to pick the car that was going to break the three-wide traffic jam and at some point, for some unknown reason, someone up front must have either braked or checked up halfway down the straight at the top of the esses because I suddenly found Chip's car quickly filling my windscreen again! I ended up nailing him AGAIN in the check-up and everyone got going again.
I passed a couple of cars in the Bus Stop, another one into the "ankle" of the boot, then as we went two-wide through there we encountered an ITB Golf that was sliding sideways to the traffic flow!!! I *just* missed the car, all the while praying he would not release the brakes and slide backwards. He didn't, and while I don't know what happened after I passed I must say he seemed to do a good job keeping it inside the turn. Whoever you are; THANK YOU. I scratched off a couple more into the toe, one or two into the heel, one more into the left hander afterwards, and one each in turns 10 and 11, and as I round that last turn and got onto the front straight I was AMAZED to find that I was in fourth place behind my buddy Joe DiMinno! Rick was in front, followed by a SMMAAITAC and Joe, then me! When I saw that, I simply could not believe it: I had passed 22 cars in the first lap.
After taking a few deep breaths down the front straight I tightened my shoulder straps for the goal ahead: catch Rick. He had done an excellent job getting clear of the cars in front of him and he enjoyed a hefty lead over Joe and the SMMAAITAC. By the end of lap two I had caught and passed both Joe and the SMMAAITAC and had a clear view of Rick. Right about then I don't know what happened exactly, but I got into this "zone" where I was mentally coaching myself like I do students, saying things like "smooth turn ins" and "look ahead" and "consistency, son!" and just started reeling him in slowly. I've always been a chaser, and during races I tend to allow myself to get sucked into corners that I wouldn't normally do on my own. Matt had done some damper and tire pressure adjustments to the car that really seemed to work; I felt like I could toss the car around and not worry about it biting me. I allowed myself to go into corners deeper under braking, carry more speed through the corners, and use that to carry much more speed on the straights. Matt was calling out times to me and I started out with the times I had done on Friday, then slightly better, then slightly better again. I pushed a little more and with 6 laps or so Rick was within reach. The final straw came when he caught some traffic at the top of the esses and lost momentum; I drafted up to him and passed him going into the Bus Stop Chicane.
Of course, at this point the job wasn't done, and Rick wasn't about to give up. He stalked me for about a lap or so when we came upon slower traffic, and I got the better end of those deals. As he mentioned above, he lost momentum due to traffic on one corner and came across some misfortune on another, and I was able to put three or four cars between us; then the full course caution came out during lap 10 for multiple incidents on course. We received the checkered flag at the end of lap 10 (one short of intended, no doubt 'cause there was no way they could clean up the track mess for a restart) and we finally came to the end of our oddysey. We made our way to impound and points beyond.
I would like to mention, and not in passing, that I was impressed that everyone in the field did a great job of sorting ourselves out in those first few laps. Everyone did a marvelous job of keeping eyes on a swivel and looking for traffic. If anything, *I* was the bull in the china shop out there, and I'm greatly appreciative of the consideration given to me by my fellow competitors. I apologize to anyone I could possibly have offended in the process, especially Chip.
This one feels good; it was hard-fought. ITA is a hell of a class with a lot of talented drivers, and I'm glad to be a part of it. Today was really, really fun. - Greg
Anyone care to fine me on the result sheet. I forgot to get one. we where packing up for the LONG tow home and by the time I got to PA I relized I never went to get one. I just want to know how close to DFL I was.
Congrats, Greg. That sounds like one hell of a race, and I want video of that first lap! :blink:
Was Driscoll driving a 323 or a 325 in ITS? Results showing him in a 325.
323i - must have been a typo at registration
Talk about a bad way to learn a new track. In the pouring rain with near no visibility. I am surprised I made some of the turns as mist was litterally whiting out my views on Saturday.
Sundays race was great, though I have to say, it was a new experience to hear we where 5 wide in turn 1 in my area of the start and I got sammiched between two cars. I couldnt find any rubs or paint on my car but I felt the 'bump' from both sides.
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...I want video of that first lap! :blink:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_pgUUhIjAw
Couple things strike me here.
1. The awareness of the drivers that you were there
2. Your ability to move around within the pack in the first 30 seconds finding holes and not getting as bogged down as you would think you would
Nice - VERY nice. Good thing you didn't pack it up and take off.
Oh, and what's with all the 2002's in ITB? One of my favorites...are they still a factor?
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Oh, so now I have a nickname. I think the real "hotshoe" last weekend was you, Greg. Only a "hotshoe" could get into the 17s last weekend in an A car.
Well, this was for now my last ITA race for a while(car is nearly sold). The test day went good but it was humid as hell. The morning was great there was only about 5 or 6 cars in our run group, then in the afternoon they added the SMs without consulting our run group. :rolleyes: It took me a few sessions to get back used to my power-steered, radial-shod, over-weight beast that is my ITA car(compared to the Prod car). But we felt good as we were in the 20s on older tires.
Saturday sucked, simply put. Like Greg, I didn't go out for the first qual session and we sat around looking at 6 different forecasts/radar images on his laptop. I was on the fence at that point about even staying the rest of the weekend, as my car is nearly sold and I didn't come to race in the rain. So after we were "pretty sure" it was not going to rain on sunday, I decided to go out for the afternoon session. I didn't want to take any chances so I was going out on rains despite the track drying out before our session. There was a huge black/grey cloud moving our way and the wind was picking up. On the grid it starting coming down, by the esses it was POURING. I got by a bunch of cars stuck out on slicks and was making a good lap when I went too deep on the brakes going into the toe of the boot, locked em up, sped up when I hit the grass, brushed the tires and luckily had enough momentum to keep going without stopping, great. By the time I got around to the flag, I could feel the left front tire rubbing and I could barely make out the brake markers my windshield was so fogged. So I got one lap in and was set to start off 30th on sunday.
With Greg starting 27th, right in front of me, we decided to work together to get to the front. It was absolute chaos at the start, which was a little fast. I broke to the inside, got by like two rows then made my way to the middle and picked off a few more rows by T1. I went around the outside of T1 and must have got like 6 or 7 more cars before heading up the esses were I found Greg's bumper and followed him to the bus-stop, we went down the back straight three wide with ITB and "SMMAAITAC"'s all around. The brake check going into the busstop caught me off gaurd and I lost ground coming out of the chicane. I went down into the laces of the boot and got by Chip in the Integra on the outside, where in front of me Jon Kofod was in a HUGE tankslapper and went off the track. Then coming out of the corner was the noted GTI spun to the inside and a cluster of cars in front of me. Greg got by them before the toe and I got pinched by a Volvo coming up the hill. I picked a few more off before T11 and drafted and shot by Reese and the other leading ITB car in the front straight. By then I think I was in 7th or 8th, after starting 29th but after getting stuck behind traffic in the boot I lost touch of Greg. I got by the remaining SMMAAITAC's on the next lap and got by Joe on lap 3 I think and started to get some clean track riding mostly alone cept for lap cars. With about three to go I saw rick in my sights after he dropped a wheel in the boot. I was slowly catching him, got to a few car lengths and the yellow came out ending the race.
It was a fun race, I've never passed that many cars in my life and I was 1.3secs better then I was last year. Congrats to Greg on winning and getting the track record, but I did beat you on the "hard charger" award, lol.
-Mark
Congrats to Greg. Sounds like it was one hell of a race. Will look at the video later....looking forward to watching it.
Greg, Nice driving!! I'll echo Andy's comments about picking your gaps and not getting bogged down. Excellent work!
Andy, There are still several '02s racing in the DC Region MARRS series. The couple that Greg passed on his charge to the front are typical front-running MARRS ITB guys.
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Oh, and what's with all the 2002's in ITB? One of my favorites...are they still a factor?
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Andy I believe that the MARRS series probably has the most 2002's I have ever seen running in a point series. At least from the IT results I read. They are still a factor around here, these cars all well developed and well driven. Volvos make up the other large section of ITB, then the oddballs and VW's scatter the rest of the field.
So THAT'S how a B13 SR20 is supposed to run.... :D
Great video Greg!
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Rob, congrats on 2nd. I thought the pace car was to pick up the leader on a full course yellow!!?? So what happens, the damn pace car gets in front of me and lets you guys take off!! :D Sure would have made it more interesting at the end if they had picked up on the leader.
The first 4 ITS cars were the last 4 cars in the lead pack behind the pace car (truck?) I have never driven faster pace laps in my life (2:20's) I wasn't quite sure what was going on then the green flag flew for the restart and a one lap shoot out. I don't remember seeing a white flag but later someone told me there was a 1 lap board displayed - oh well - I had a lot of fun for my first race there.Quote:
Rob, congrats on 2nd. I thought the pace car was to pick up the leader on a full course yellow!!?? So what happens, the damn pace car gets in front of me and lets you guys take off!! :D Sure would have made it more interesting at the end if they had picked up on the leader.
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I thought, maybe incorrectly, that the pace car had picked up the overall leader, who was running very fast, and that he had lapped most of the ITS field, thereby sticking those cars that he had lapped one lap down. The top four cars (in ITS, not overall) hadn't been lapped yet, but were close to being lapped, so had to drive almost the whole way around to catch up to the pack - which is a good reason to turn the 2:20's.
I was just trying to keep up with Bill - he was setting the pace!
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I thought, maybe incorrectly, that the pace car had picked up the overall leader, who was running very fast, and that he had lapped most of the ITS field, thereby sticking those cars that he had lapped one lap down. The top four cars (in ITS, not overall) hadn't been lapped yet, but were close to being lapped, so had to drive almost the whole way around to catch up to the pack - which is a good reason to turn the 2:20's.
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Chris, good job, tried to see you at your garage, you weren't there. When you guys were in the toe of the boot I was watching Bill lock up his rear brakes while I was half way down the hill. So I wasn't to far behind the lead group. The damn pace truck just jumped out ahead of me at the bus stop! As you guys can imagine, I was going nuts trying to figure what the hell was going on!!!!!!! You were the lead pack catching the rear of the pack under yellow. hehe Some how this shouldn't make sense. :bash_1_:
Greg - Great video! Looked like more fun that can legally be had! :023:
The 02's that was running up front with me,are soooo fast, and well driven.
I drove my a#$@$s off to stay in front.
Good job guys. :happy204:
Congrats Greg, on the lap record and the results. First lap was quite a show...like to see the rest of the race. Burn a DVD and throw it in your truck...we'll catch up with each other someplace. I had a race like that once...I refer to it as my 'Retirement Race'...since I knew I could happily retire from racing after that one, and not feel I was missing anything - Double race weekend at the Glen, crashed out of the SRF lead Sat. PM, missed Sun. short course qualifying (still putting the car back together). Started DFL in a 35 car SRF & E/F/G/H Prod & GT3/4 field - 14 laps on the short course. Got 30 guys in the first 3 laps, FCY for 4 laps, then got EVERYBODY else, too. Got the lead in T11 on the last lap.
Haven't forgotten a bit of it...just pissed I didn't have a camcorder running. You lucky dog...in 40 years you can be boring your grandchildren AND making them watch the video !!!
FYI...that anonymous Golf that you thanked was John Morris in his 16v. I guess he had problems later on in the race.
Missed you guys at the Nelson Ledges 12 Hour. ~23 starters...small field...but quality. Overall winner was the Pushkar/USERA Miata, Ellinger was 2nd in their Mercedes and we were third overall/1st SM. You going to VIR for the 13 ?
Greg, that's awesome! Congrats on your win; you totally deserve it. When Matt and I were talking at the picnic, it was quite obvious how proud he was of you and what you both are doing. So, when are you going to give me some pointers?
About the "in the zone" mentality...yeah, I've only truly been there once and it felt great! Somehow I have a feeling you'll be there many more times coming up. Looking forward to going to GA to see you win the ARRC. Oh, I so wish I could place bets on that one. :P
I even showed Melissa the video. Her comments..."I like the lime green colored car" and "wow! He bumped him a bit ther followed by ooof!". (There were many wows versus cool colored cars. :) ) Nice job Greg.
Thank you for all the kind comments. The rest of the race is pretty interesting, but it could be condensed down into only a few more laps; the rest are nothing but open windshield...John, I'll toss a DVD in there for the next time we meet; congrats on your third! and I am planning on running with Team Knestis for the VIR 13 hour...
ABSOLUTELY. This wasn't a one-man show. With very limited exceptions the drivers in the field were consistent and predictable. Just about everyone I passed did the correct thing by simply driving their line so that I knew where they were going to be, and I could adjust my actions accordingly. Every time I look at that video I get the same impression: super job on everybody's part.Quote:
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Incredible lap of the Glen!!!!! I was holding my breath in spots......great bumper drafting!
Wow....that was a fun lap eh Greg?? That spinning car in the ankle worked out veeeeery well for you! And it seemed almost like he was a "pick" to help you get by 3 guys, LOL.
Your car does that "bouncy" thing just like mine up the hill from the toe. I always thought it was unique to my car. Everybody I mentioned it to had blank looks on their faces.
And how about those Miatas! What'd they leave..two YARDs of track off the apex?? You gotta love that, LOL.
Awesome lap. I should book my time for the ARRCs now..you ARE going, right??
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The 02's that was running up front with me,are soooo fast, and well driven.
I drove my a#$@$s off to stay in front.
Good job guys. :happy204:
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Great job!!! :happy204: Wish we were with you and the BMW's fighting it out, it looked like a large ITB field!!! What were you and the others turning for lap times? Also if you have a copy of the results I would love to get a fax... 9789377341 ATTN: Raymond
Raymond
Greg - Congrats on the lap record and win. Limited access to the "net" forces me to wait until I get home from the beach to see the "hot lap" - Can't wait. :happy204:
The best. Like John said: that one's going to be hard to top. I had a "favorite race" from 'way back when' but this one's my new one.Quote:
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That's not a good thing, Jake. In fact, imagine doing that all around Lime Rock Park, constantly, for 30 minutes. That's why my car works very well on a smooth track (The Glen) but not well on bumpy ones (LRP, Road Atlanta). Same thing happens when we pound the curbs at the Bus Stop. Close your eyes and imagine the ride through the Downhill at LRP...!Quote:
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We believe it's indicative of inadequate damping versus our springs rates versus our corner weights. And this is with the new Konis at max rebound! I'm looking for a window where I can send them back for revalving...
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I was just trying to keep up with Bill - he was setting the pace!
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How the hell did Nick ever do a 2:14 last year?
Maybe he used the added power of taco bell.
I turned a 2:14.9 on the same weekend that Nick turned the lap record - it must have been a very good day - the right temperatures, the right track conditions, everything.
Don't forget that we had essentially a green track - the rain on Saturday washed away everything, and no one drove fast enough in the warmups to put any rubber down on the track.
Besides, I kept getting stuck behind guys that were fast up the straights and slow in the corners :P !
I'd like to say a 'ditto' in regards to the heads up driving. I too had tried to qualify on dry tires (and only in the second session) and started further back than potential - 38th, then finished 18th. The first couple of laps were very congested, double/triple stacked, 3 wide going into the bus stop, and no fender rubbing. It was a lot of fun; Can we do it again?