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Fall Sprints at the Farm
I am going to the Fall Sprints at the Blackhawk Farm on Oct 9 & 10 to play with Ben & Bill. Is anyone else going to the Farm to play ?
Have Fun http://Forum.ImprovedTouring.com/it/wink.gif
David
ITA/7 RX-7 #14
ps: Ben & Bill what lap times need I turn so that I may play with the two of you? It will be my first time out with the partial conversion to the ITA/7 car.
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That's become one of my favorite events! We'll be there providing nothing bad happens at the runoffs.
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Last time I was 4 seconds off the leaders, but that's also when I was having troubles keeping the oil in the car. Now, things should be better and I'll be on stickier tires...
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Bill
Planet 6 Racing
bill (at) planet6racing (dot) com
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Dave,
A mid 1:24 to low 1:25 would probobly put you in the top 5 in ITA at BHF.
Bob
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For all of you in the know, Shanty Towne #3 will be up for this event. Come by and say hi. We have all day since we are group 6.
Bob Clark
#76 Cen-Div ITA (soon to be ITB)
SCCA ITAC Member
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It really sucks that we are last, but I guess someone has to be. I'm seriously considering coming down Saturday morning instead of Friday night...
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Bill
Planet 6 Racing
bill (at) planet6racing (dot) com
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***#76 Cen-Div ITA (soon to be ITB)
SCCA ITAC Member***
Please someone help me with the thought process om this subject. The CenDiv ITA #76 owned by a ITAC member (sorry Bob) is not competitive in ITA therefore the car is reclassed to ITB.
The 1st gen RX-7 is not competitive in ITA therefore it gets to stay in ITA.
Hmmmmmmmmmm http://Forum.ImprovedTouring.com/it/frown.gif
David
ps: There are two ways to play this game. Next year I will with my 1st gen RX-7 do the very best I can to be competitive in ITA. If I am not competitive I will do myself some competition adjustments for year 2006. http://Forum.ImprovedTouring.com/it/wink.gif
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David,
Sorry to burst your bubble but i, did not write the letters to get the 85-87 CRX SI and 86-87 Civic SI moved. I did write an intial letter in May of this year asking for this move and was turned down. The response was that the ITAC wanted to wait a year before moving this car and the 86-87 Civic SI. I agreed to this. With all the other changes going on this seemed to be the best thing to do.
Now, several other people wrote in on these cars (no i did not prod them into writing letters)and the issue was revisited. After many questions and much discussion it was recomeneded that these cars be moved to ITB.
As it stands these cars will pick up an added 130lbs of weight IF and WHEN the Club Racing board and the National Board of
Directors approve this move.
I hope you are kidding with this post because i take my position with the ITAC very seriously. As memebers of the ITAC we still have to follow the same rules as any other member in regards to rule or car classifications. All of the actions recomended are in fastrack along with the letter i wrote last May.
If you want the RX-7 moved somebody better come up with a better letter and reason than just " We need this car moved because it is not competitive at my race track"
David, The kind of letter you posted is one of the reasons i do not post much on this and many other sites.
I'm also kind of p***ed off that you did not call me to get my side of the story before you posted your letter. We have an 800 number you know and you talked to me earlier today about other racing things.
Bob
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Bob - Any idea when the outcome of all the hard work you and the ITAC will be offical?
May also make it to BFR, although S gets to play with the GT1 group.
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JeffG,
I'm not sure when it becomes official. I would assume it will be in the next issue of fastrack.The BOD had a lot of items to vote on (besides IT stuff) so, it will probobly take a little bit to compile for fastrack.
On a side note: which car do you run?
Bob
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***I'm also kind of p***ed off that you did not call me to get my side of the story before you posted your letter.****
Bob, loosen you shorts up a little before you choke. If I was serious about your class car being reclassed I would have talked to you about the proported issue. If Andy, Darin or George had had their cars reclassed I woud have given them the same business.
Now that we are off that supposed issue as you should well know we (racers) all have our own agenda. Being that we all have our own agenda I think you would agree that we all do what is best for our selves.
Have Fun http://Forum.ImprovedTouring.com/it/wink.gif
David
[This message has been edited by ddewhurst (edited September 15, 2004).]
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BTW - Just happened to see the entry form schedule on the Chicago Region website.....
I noticed the race distance is 24 laps which is 1 lap shorter than a National race.
That, my friends, is a long race! I hope you guys are in good shape.
Even though it is just a single event 2-day regional, $200 is a pretty good deal for that amount of track time.
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And if we can keep this run of weather going, what more could we ask for!
MC also has a long race at BFR near the end of Oct. - 50 laps. Just long enough for everyone to make on a single tank.
Jeff Giordano
67 ITS
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If the Oct 9-10 event was a double I'd be there but with towing costs and entry fees being what they are, I just go when I can run two races. In MIDIV we have Regional-National race weekends with a full slate of regionals on Saturday and on Sunday the national races AND another IT race. I love racing at BHF. I was the only RX7 at the Firecracker in July. Where were the rest of you RX7's?
Mike Trier
#99 Silver ITA/7
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2 weeks to go and 2 transmissions still in pieces. I think I'm almost ready to start working on them. Now that's what I call excitment! How's everyones cars doing?
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Hey Mike,
Are you gonna come up to MAM this weekend to at least watch?
And Calling Jeff G.
Whats going on,are you still holding up those ITA cars?
I hope things are well,call me anytime
515-202-7490
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Ben, you're not the only one lagging behind. I finally put the suspension back on the car last night and started putting the nose back on as well. Hopefully by Friday it will be ready to go, but I think it is going to spill into next week.
Oh well, as long as I'm not working on it at the track!
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Bill
Planet 6 Racing
bill (at) planet6racing (dot) com
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I think it's going to be a cold one as well holmes. I'm thinking about staying in Madison with my bro friday and showing up saturday morning. One less night at the track for us poor people who have to camp.
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Yes, I'm going to MAM with the car. I don't want to miss your fine meal Friday night. I can use a good getaway and I don't want the car to get as rusty as I am. I also got an awning and might as well use it. Besides, the tires won't get any stickier over the winter.
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You know, it's a good thing I decided to replace the oil pressure sending unit. The brass fitting broke (again!) and so I'm going to have to fix it correctly this time. It's a good thing Bob and I were just discussing an isolator to get that mass off the engine...
Car is coming together well. Should be done tonight, except for tires (need to put on newer Hoosiers). How's everyone else's coming? David, is your car all ready, or are you still trying to finish it?
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Bill
Planet 6 Racing
bill (at) planet6racing (dot) com
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Still waiting for my trans parts to show up. They better be in my door way when I get home OR ELSE!
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Ben, this is a no excuse to miss race. We been beating up on the Saturn guy & now it's time for all good RX-7 owners (you & me) to preform.
Bill, the items I intended to do are complete. Striped it's inners out & added speed & cooling stuff only. No suspension or welded cage.
Look forward to seeing you guys. http://Forum.ImprovedTouring.com/it/wink.gif
David
ps: I have some tales from hell. Opps, I mean the Runoffs.
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Bill,
Did you break the new sensor? If so let me know and i will talk to Autometer about a warranty.
As to my car, I'm thinking about looking at it this weekend and maybe checking some things out before next weekend. Oil change, new rotors,quick alignment and i should be good to go.
All i need to do is find a tow vehicle since my Dakato blew the rear end out towing a vintage car home from MN 2 weeks ago. I could always use my 1 ton dump truck but, that would look strange. See ya next weekend.
Bob Clark
SCCA Cen-Div #76 ITA
SCCA IT Committee
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It wouldn't look strange to me, Bob!
No, the sensor didn't break. The brass fittings I was using to adapt to it broke. I've switched to steel fitting for this race, but if the fittings break again, the hole is getting plugged and I'll just pretend like I know what my oil pressure is!
Car was started last night and it seems that the majority of the problems I've been having all year are fixed. Now, I just have to clean all the oil off the car...
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Bill
Planet 6 Racing
bill (at) planet6racing (dot) com
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Oh don't you worry about me making it David, plastic car boy is GOING DOWN! John and I, in an effort to make it more interesting, have both decided to get a cold today so we are postponing transmission-pa-looza till Saturday. Most of the parts showed up yesterday (thank you mazda motorsports!) so hopefully we can slap one of these guys together. If not I'll just hollow out a trans case and extend the drive shaft all the way to the eccentric shaft and run it like dirt tracker. With the rotary's awesome redline I should still be able to beat Bill and his oil flinging glad trash can. (Oh that hurts!!!)
BRING IT BILL!
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Easy on the PLASTIC stuff if,you bump us when it is cold out you might break us.
My car also has plastic fenders and other misc parts from the hood to the area from the moulding down along the side is all plastic. Bill, you gonna let them talk like that?
Bob Clark
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Yeah, I think I'll let them talk. That's all they do anyway...
I just got the last component I need to make sure my car is ready. I just hope they are!
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Bill
Planet 6 Racing
bill (at) planet6racing (dot) com
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What kind of car do you drive Bob? I don't believe we have met, but if you will be at Blackhawk I'm looking forward to it. All in good fun of course. We all know that bumping is bad, but David and I have been working on our Tandem of Terror approach. We'll be driving side by side with our doors open. Not blocking of course. We just happen to be so evenly matched we can never seem to complete a pass. It's also strange that our cars are only this evenly matched if we out qualify you guys. Pretty crazy but I guess that's how it goes!
Ben Harding
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Ben,
I drive a 1986 Honda CRX Si in ITA. This is not the fast later model cars. Mine is a ex-firehawk car. My buddy also has the same car, both are red #76 mine,#27 his.
Look us up,we try to paddock out by turn 5 where all the power is. Can't miss us. Looks like we will have 4-5 IT cars and one prod car parked with us.
I would figure if you and david are driving with your doors open it just breaks the wind for us and make it easier to pass.
Bob
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Hey! No speaking of breaking wind in front of us! That might give them ideas!!
Ben, I'll be sure you and Bob meet. And, I might even be nice and bring some homebrew!
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Bill
Planet 6 Racing
bill (at) planet6racing (dot) com
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HOMEBREW!!! Kick arse! Might have to be a bad racing driver and have one Saturday night. Looking forward to meeting you Bob, although red honda's give me nightmares. You guys seem to always be flying around that track. Maybe now that I have the timing closer to correct things will be a little closer... I hope! Bill, are you still going for the turn 2-3 area?
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I don't know. Bob invited me into his area, too, and made some good points about the advantages of parking over there. But, 3d-4 is closer to the real bathrooms and my "crew chief" really needs that. So...
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Bill
Planet 6 Racing
bill (at) planet6racing (dot) com
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Bill,
No worrys about parking with us. Go where you need to go to keep the chief happy.
There is a little path that runs between turn 5 and the tech shed and i will probobly bring my 4 wheeler to get around
(if i can figure a way to get it in and out of the dump truck)so we can hook up either way.
I'm always up fo a few beers at the end of the day so, bring it on!
Ben, look forward to meeting you. I should be at the track fri pm. I'm leaving right from work(Pegasus)at 5pm so,it is only an hour or so to the track instead of 1hr 45min or more from my house.
Bob
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With Vern working double duty between Crew & Tech, we'll be paddocked next to the Tech shed. See ya all there!
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So how do you guys take the entrance to turn 3? I know we are talking about top secret driving technique here and no one wants to tell secrets, but if you're willing to share...
I've seen a lot of different ways to take the corner. Some take a middle of the road, hard on the brakes, then a turn. Or what about a left side of the road, trail brake into the corner kind of a squirrelly sliding entrance. I think I was doing the middle of the road hard on the brakes in a straight line heading a bit to the left side of the track then a turn. Is there a better way? I just feel this is one corner on this track that might hold a lot of time in it.
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Follow me and keep up if you can!! Ha!
Bob
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The simple answer is.....it depends.
I have seen three different national champs take the entrance to turn 3 in 3 different types of cars (FWD, RWD w/front engine, and RWD w/rear engine) and take 3 different lines.
What you really need to do is have a crew member sit out at the corner and take sector times and try different lines and see what works best for you.
For me (FWD) I like to straighten the exit out of two, enter about mid-track in a straight line, make an abrupt turn in, and then accelerate as hard as possible while unwinding the wheel. I like to use the gator teeth on the inside as my go/no go point, in other words if I goofed and carried to much speed into the corner, I can still feather the gas at that point to keep from running out of road, otherwise I keep my foot planted....hard. Note your tach reading on the exit and try to pick up time.
For a FWD car, it seems to be more of a slow in - fast out type of corner, but in a RWD (like a Miata) it is more of a momentum corner and they tend to carry more speed into the corner under a more 'steady-state' condition.
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Nice one Bob, and that's Greg!
So in your best mad scientist voice, "It works!!!". As far as a small 1st and 2nd gear test can tell us, John and I have put together a transmission. Can't wait for the weekend!
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Congratulations, Ben! It's good to hear that you'll be there for certain. Be sure to bring the tools for that trans, though, just in case...
As far as entry to turn three, I come out of 2, aim for the tree, wait until the tires are about to fall off the track, then turn. It seems to work good, but, then again, I haven't really tried anything different...
If you need me to bring anything to help make sure you get out on track, just shoot me an e-mail or give me a call. I'll put the Rockford Mazda dealers into my Cell Phone...
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Bill
Planet 6 Racing
bill (at) planet6racing (dot) com
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***"It works!!!". As far as a small 1st and 2nd gear test can tell us,***
Ben, find the address locations of the local Ricers & show them what real noise is. Test 1st, 2nd, 3rd & 4th to about 8 grand. http://Forum.ImprovedTouring.com/it/biggrin.gif
See ya all at the Farm http://Forum.ImprovedTouring.com/it/wink.gif
David