Reports from the Track guys are that the uphill from the toe was not touched........ <sigh>
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Reports from the Track guys are that the uphill from the toe was not touched........ <sigh>
Jake Gulick and I walked the track a couple of weeks ago and we both were impressed with the paving job they did. I would not be surprised if some records fall this year in part due to this. IMO, the areas they didn't touch won't have an impact on us.
Can you confirm that the sole was untouched? "Won't have impact on us...."! Gee, I don't enjoy those bumps very much!Quote:
Jake Gulick and I walked the track a couple of weeks ago and we both were impressed with the paving job they did. I would not be surprised if some records fall this year in part due to this. IMO, the areas they didn't touch won't have an impact on us.
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I'm so bad with the boot names. That's the part after taking the "bowl" section and going up the hill before the right hander?
I was down there 2+ weeks ago with the Ferrari guys, and again on Monday with Quackfest.
New pavement in T1, and in the Outer Loop from the entry all the way down past the NASCAR straight. T6 (Laces) is also all new...braking zone is really smooth...kept scaring myself. My 'heinie dyno' says that they've changed the camber of the entry to the Outer Loop. New pavement is really sticky, in spite of what the HPDE weenies say ("ooooh....it's slippery....). My prediction is that lap records fall like dominos at the Nat'l and Reg'l in July, if the weather cooperates.
Hopefully, the new pavement will fix all the 'weepers' in the Outer Loop and T6.
Toe is still bumpy. Just tighten your seat belts.
And...(TAA-DAAAAH !!!), after a build of nearly 15 years, my long neglected & ignored ITS Z-car finally turned a lap on a track ! And nothing big fell off or got flung out the side of the motor !!!
Well at least the ..... ITA record will be safe unless somebody buys #24Quote:
I would not be surprised if some records fall this year in part due to this. IMO, the areas they didn't touch won't have an impact on us.
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As John said, the pavement is bee- u- tee- ful. The "toe" of the boot is untouched, concrete patches remain, and the "sole" has those odd stattaco bumps. Interesting bumps those, as you can't even feel them in a Cadilac CTS V, but you most surely can in my RX-7 ITA car. I've often theorized that they are the result of some minor underground "shaling" of the ledge rock so common to that area, rsulting in a "tilting" of sections of the pavement above.
Turn 1 is much different, and the new "track out" is the point where the extra pavement on the outsdie stops and rejoins the track proper, LOL. Not really, but you will see a lot of people abusing themselves out there!
And the long right out of the bus stop chicane (AKA the "Kendall corner, after Tommy Kendall due to his monumnetal crash in the IMSA Chevy years ago) is soooooooo smooth.
Track records will fall as soon as the right combination of people cars and weather combine.
Laces = T6-> T7Quote:
I'm so bad with the boot names. That's the part after taking the "bowl" section and going up the hill before the right hander?
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Toe = T7
Sole = T7 -> T8
Heel = T8
here you go:
WGI always looked like a lot of fun, but it's a 16 hour tow for me. Is it worth it?
http://www.r-series.org/sbrs/wg.jpgQuote:
here you go:
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Just a note on the above pic...the darker areas on the track are not the most recent repave.
That's one long tow. It's a great track, but 16 hours? If you did, I suggest you make it for a double event and plan on doing a few other things in the area. There is a small national park in the town of Watkins Glen which is just awesome. Basically you get to walk through a gorge where there are ~ 10 waterfalls. Alright, so it's not exacty Yosemitie, but it is worth a couple of hours.Quote:
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I also see that you have an ITB car. :D I'll be making it out to two Glen events this year (I hope). The more ITB cars the better.
Dave-
Don't forget about the viniards... Nothing like going to Wagner (http://www.wagnervineyards.com/) and drinking a few beers while the girls have a few tastings of Wine :)
Raymond
Sept 15-16 Is a double Maybe a test Day before. Vineyard Tours etc if you want to spend some extra time Soaring Museum, corning glass if it might Help to justify the tow as a little vacation time. Since I have spent way toooooooooooooo many hours on the Hill since 1957 would be glad to try to answer any questions. Tom Weaver :eclipsee_steering:Quote:
WGI always looked like a lot of fun, but it's a 16 hour tow for me. Is it worth it?
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The Glen is certainly my favorite track. I would definitly suggest making it out there if you can. Very nice area with all the vinyards and such. the gorge in the middle of town is really a site to see, especially if you like to hike.
-Tom sorry i forgot to give you that cd at pocono i'll get that to you when i get home from vaca next week
Lesser Known attractions..........
Glenn Curtiss Museum in Hammondsport
Village Tavern in Hammondsport
Bully Hill Winery near Hammondsport
all about 30 mins from WGI
Wow - sounds like I could make a week of it!
Thanks for the suggestions. :)
I must say the glen is an awe inspiring track that is definitely worth a good tow to get to, it’s only 5 hours for me. There is one down side however. The track management requires full course yellows for just about anything so there is the potential to spend a lot of time behind the pace. Due to this it makes sense to look for weekend with the most racing.
Lots of "wife" things listed here-> http://www.wrightscottages.com/links.html
If you're in an early race group......90 miles away....
http://www.oswegospeedway.com/Home/t...6/Default.aspx
1800 lbs, injected big blocks on alcohol...life is good :birra:
There will be a test day before the Sept Fun One so would give you 3 days as Fun One is a double. You can register for the event Friday am and that will be done. The Supss should be up this week on The NESCCA site. TW :eclipsee_steering: those that ran in July how was the new paving?Quote:
Sept 15-16 Is a double Maybe a test Day before. Vineyard Tours etc if you want to spend some extra time Soaring Museum, corning glass if it might Help to justify the tow as a little vacation time. Since I have spent way toooooooooooooo many hours on the Hill since 1957 would be glad to try to answer any questions. Tom Weaver :eclipsee_steering:
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After driving WGI about 5or 10k miles, It is hard to adjust to a new line or entry speed.
I spent a couple of days there last week
The new , low curbing in T1 has added about 7-9mph to the exit. The apex, over the low curb is moved back about 6-8 ft . This lets the turn in be moved the same amount. the trackout is way open and the curb can be used hard there also. A lot faster, up the hill.
The hard part is forcing an old dog to turn in in a new spot.
The curbing at T5 might also add some exit speed for the faster cars. the ITB cars are flat after the Bustop and may not see any faster section times. Most dont hit an apex there , as the track has less bank , all the way down at the curb. There is no grip in the outer half of the pavement, so outside passes may not happen, anymore. :>
T6 has the low curb and there is a lot more room there, it takes BIg Balls to execute the turn in tho , but the exit line is open a lot more than it was. I did not get near the exit speed increase I was hoping, only about 4mph. There is a lot more, IMHO. I was driving a friends Corvette, on KUMHOS and it was very fun.
I mostly worked on T1 as I have never wrecked another's car and that could happen pushing the T6 line up to where it needs to be. MM