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Originally posted by apexingsupra@Nov 22 2005, 10:57 PM
Mattberg, I will say this again and neither, Butch or John will disagree with this. There was never any mention or discussion whatsoever of "Elite Eight" regions trying to ban or prevent the other non-racing regions from club racing. You say that and in the same breath talk about Chattanooga wanting to become a racing region when they are not currently one.
You also assume that Chattanooga is possibly thinking about racing at Roebling when that has never been part of any discussion or thought process with them. It would be somewhere else. [snapback]66371[/snapback]
Whoooa ther Bama! First, there's a discrepancy about what was discussed by people who attended the meeting so let's be careful using the word "never". Second, I only used the Chatanooga region example in response to the basis for the proposal provided by you guys of opening things up to new racing regions. Let's not take things out of context to try and discredit me and deflect the issue.
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Not every region in SEDIV wants to go club racing. I only know of two who have expressed a desire to explore that idea. It is not that suddenly races are going to get distributed to all of the regions in SEDIV. No one is even thinking that.
Well now, that sort of shoots down the whole new racing regions concept doesn't it?Why would we need to open hosting up to new race regions if only two are even remotely interested? This is the kind of conflicting data that makes me question the true basis for the proposal. Is it new racing regions? Is it a share of the money? Is it not wanting to be a non-racing region? Money? What is it?
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We as a division are trying to find solutions to our problems hopefully before they become bigger problems. My region has had extreme difficulty in the last two years in scheduling a SARRC race. Every potential date we have had was occupied by a "traditional dated" (SARRC rule) event. It has taken a lot of negotiation to get even one date on the calendar and both times it has involved Florida (thank you Capt. John). Florida gave up a race weekend and did not replace it. If the Alabama region wants to put on a another SARRC race (possibly with Chattanooga) for a grand total of two races we will run into the same problem. The calendar is already full. Either the rules need to be changed and or someone with a large number of races needs to consider giving up a date. I would like to think the larger racing regions do not have a "tough luck" we have the dates attitude and I don't see that as such. It is about dialogue and the need to explore whether the different regions can accomplish their goals with a little "give and take".
What are the problems? You have no track? Lack of drivers? Lack of workers? As I understand it we replaced at least one event because you guys couldn't pull it off. Don't tell me you could find no dates when we had to pick one up to cover SARRC. So what happens? You all come down and try and poach events from Florida or any other region that has managed to get the job done with exclusivity? Restablish Birmingham-Atlanta as the center of the SEDIV universe? You should fold into another region that does have a track. Be absorbed if you can't compete. That's the way it works. Combine Atlanta and Alabama and combine SC and Buccaneer. There's a solution. Good luck getting that done though. You'll really learn about SCCA territorial politics! :happy204:
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Again this is not a "free enterprise", "free competiton" set up with club racing in SEDIV. It is a controlled "business'. If it was not then a region could put on a triple SARRC any weekend it wanted. But you can't. Just like putting on just a regional race does not have much of a draw to entrants based on the SARRC series format being a points series.
This simply doesn't fly and is just wrong. It is free enterprise. Without it the product suffers. Forcing races and eliminating competition only makes for mediocre product. Give the customer no choice and ultimately the product deteriorates. That's what HAS happened as Florida is putting together better race weekends and accumulating better market share.
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As to the comment about Chattanooga going racing at Daytona (as a "what if"), that could only happen if CFR agreed to let it happen. There is a home region control of the home track rule in which the outside region wanting to race has to get permission.
Never happen. :rolleyes: But here's an idea. Co-sponsor races. Call it a strategic alliance. Offer CFR a deal where your region gets a certain amount of money for every driver you bring to the race from your own region. Go out and market to your membership and get them to go. Not a whole lot of revenue but not much cost either. That is the idea right? To provide for the members of your region? Or is it the money? ;)