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FLATKITTY
12-07-2011, 05:04 PM
Forgive me if I am beating a dead horse on this one, but can someone tell me why carbs can change jets (IT 9.1.3.D.1.a), but FI systems cannot change injectors? It kinda made sense at a time when modifying the ECU was also not allowed. However, w/the passing of IT 9.1.3.D.1.a.6, why is the 'no injector rule' still in place? :shrug:

Greg Amy
12-07-2011, 05:14 PM
Because ECU-controlled cars and adjust the volume of fuel injected via pressure, duration, and duty cycle. - GA

mossaidis
12-07-2011, 05:39 PM
Second, most OEM injectors perform up to 70% (if that) duty cycle for the stock performing engines. At the baseline 25%-30% IT adder, OEM stock injectors *should* be able to handle the extra fuel delivery.

FLATKITTY
12-07-2011, 05:59 PM
Gentlemen ... THANK YOU both for your time & patience.

Eagle7
12-08-2011, 07:29 AM
Second, most OEM injectors perform up to 70% (if that) duty cycle for the stock performing engines. At the baseline 25%-30% IT adder, OEM stock injectors *should* be able to handle the extra fuel delivery.
Not to nitpick too much, but I don't think that math works. Injectors should not be run beyond about 85% duty cycle. If your IT build exceeds that, your option is to increase fuel pressure (which can have negative implications).

mossaidis
12-08-2011, 11:03 AM
Please nitpick... I am not totally educated in these matters. 70% was a very high in the sky numbers. I know most stock hondas don't get over 60% into capacity.

joeg
12-08-2011, 02:45 PM
Since the rules allow us to substutute carbs (mostly Webers) on carbed vehicles, obviously different jets go with the Weber replacement.

Robbie
12-08-2011, 07:31 PM
Not to nitpick too much, but I don't think that math works. Injectors should not be run beyond about 85% duty cycle. If your IT build exceeds that, your option is to increase fuel pressure (which can have negative implications).

Not true. Injectors can handle over 90% duty cycle without issues. The 85% number is out of date.

Also, the poster talking about injectors was saying that stock injectors of most IT cars are 25-30% oversized for the horsepower they are producing.